LOL. How bout , how native is your white world?

[Blackbear]

yup us to Bear as far as telling stories, they can only be told from the first snowfall to the last. i was never told why but what you say makes sense right? very cool.

also please get back to me as i would love to know about the 3 sisters garden.

migz,

migizi

I'm sorry.. I musta missed a post or message somewhere... what did you want to know about three sisters gardens? To be honest, this is the first year I'll have done one. I've grown corn before and I've grown other veggies before but not the traditional way or with traditional corn but now i have seeds, property and good soil so I'm going for it.

[Hwii Siziinii]

Look everybody! It's Burton Cummings!

[Joe G]

Anyone else having problems getting connected to the forum? I have been off and on all day. Maybe see you tomorrow?

Hey Marie...are you a deposit popcan? lol or a throw away??
j/k j/k....

[marie_popcan@hotmail]

problems

yup us to Bear as far as telling stories, they can only be told from the first snowfall to the last. i was never told why but what you say makes sense right? very cool.

also please get back to me as i would love to know about the 3 sisters garden.

migz,

migizi

Anyone else having problems getting connected to the forum? I have been off and on all day. Maybe see you tomorrow?

[Migiziwomen]

yup us to Bear as far as telling stories, they can only be told from the first snowfall to the last. i was never told why but what you say makes sense right? very cool.

also please get back to me as i would love to know about the 3 sisters garden.

migz,

migizi

Man that sounds familiar.. but I can't remember why we were told not to do that. Probably for the same reasons as you were told.

We are only supposed to tell stories during the late fall and winter (or is it just winter?) and not in the spring and summer cause animals like to hear us tell stories and they stop what they are supposed to be doing to listen to the stories and not getting their work done. If they don't get their work done in the summer, then they don't make it through the winter.

[Migiziwomen]

what i was told by my auntie as a child was that if you whistle at night was that it would call spirits to you and your family ie.. the gaagaa man. as far as sasquash that really does go all the way back does'nt it? from what i remember about those stories is that we were not to fear them persay but to respect them and not to disturb them at night i do not remember the entirty (sp) of it so if anyone else does that would be great i know that they meant alot and we honored them.......who is next

does anyone remember why we are not supossed to whistle at night. My Grandmother told us also but can`t remember why. But she told us alot of stuff and said you are to young to know,been away from throught no fault of my own and now she is gone. Would you answer that question for me? We were told about the Jackal and Sasquach when we were young.

[marie_popcan@hotmail]

In addition to what injunboy's already said, the dine way also says that night time is to be spent with family, sharing stories and teachings. Usually, this is to be done around the fire in the hooghan but I guess it's ok to go outside too...

Anyone have tech problems with the links llike I am? Had it most of the day yesterday and already at 9:50 A.M. this morning. Forgot to mention..............tiny tots should be taught the parents language then, like whispered in their ear. Heard someone say they are going to wait till they get older. Very young is best. so I have been told. Very few know our language and it is so sad. Sadder, I just found out one just passsed yesterday and his mother and he spoke it. I will not be there in person but in spirit. Pray for the family. Thank-you .

[marie_popcan@hotmail]

you know that is intersting although in my tribe depending on how strict the family is night is not a time for kids to be out playing. the younger the more strict as infants they are not to be exposed at night the spirits are not allowed to see them at night, they are covered in blankets and such to protect them. also curtains are kept shut at night so the spirits cannot see in to the kids as well as the kids seeing the reflection of themselves in the window, they are not allowed to play and hollor and such outside at night as to call the ga ga and under not circumstance is anyone to whistle at night. now again depending on how strict your family is warrents your behavior, i am sure there are more things about the night but this is what my auntie shared with me.
we have three well actually four different areas that are counted as reservation land district 1 1a 2 and 3 and the strictness varies for each one.
i love this site, you get to learn so much about eachother and the different nuances of our respective cultures.

I had forgotten alot of what I was taught, living in and out of foster homes and such. Regret it most of all. Since Grandmother had taken the time to teach us. Especially out in the woods. Just think how I could heal myself naturally. Yes It great to learn about different cultures. Thank-you all.

[marie_popcan@hotmail]

Man that sounds familiar.. but I can't remember why we were told not to do that. Probably for the same reasons as you were told.

We are only supposed to tell stories during the late fall and winter (or is it just winter?) and not in the spring and summer cause animals like to hear us tell stories and they stop what they are supposed to be doing to listen to the stories and not getting their work done. If they don't get their work done in the summer, then they don't make it through the winter.

does anyone remember why we are not supossed to whistle at night. My Grandmother told us also but can`t remember why. But she told us alot of stuff and said you are to young to know,been away from throught no fault of my own and now she is gone. Would you answer that question for me? We were told about the Jackal and Sasquach when we were young.

[Blackbear]

under not circumstance is anyone to whistle at night

Man that sounds familiar.. but I can't remember why we were told not to do that. Probably for the same reasons as you were told.

We are only supposed to tell stories during the late fall and winter (or is it just winter?) and not in the spring and summer cause animals like to hear us tell stories and they stop what they are supposed to be doing to listen to the stories and not getting their work done. If they don't get their work done in the summer, then they don't make it through the winter.

[Hwii Siziinii]

In addition to what injunboy's already said, the dine way also says that night time is to be spent with family, sharing stories and teachings. Usually, this is to be done around the fire in the hooghan but I guess it's ok to go outside too...

[matomani]

i agree migiziwoman its something ive learned as a lakota growing i was never allowed to look out the window or in ceremonies, especially at night time or letting kids go to wakes and funerals now days. now i see kids running around at functions like these when theyre not suppose to, times have changed tremendously.

[Migiziwomen]

you know that is intersting although in my tribe depending on how strict the family is night is not a time for kids to be out playing. the younger the more strict as infants they are not to be exposed at night the spirits are not allowed to see them at night, they are covered in blankets and such to protect them. also curtains are kept shut at night so the spirits cannot see in to the kids as well as the kids seeing the reflection of themselves in the window, they are not allowed to play and hollor and such outside at night as to call the ga ga and under not circumstance is anyone to whistle at night. now again depending on how strict your family is warrents your behavior, i am sure there are more things about the night but this is what my auntie shared with me.
we have three well actually four different areas that are counted as reservation land district 1 1a 2 and 3 and the strictness varies for each one.
i love this site, you get to learn so much about eachother and the different nuances of our respective cultures.

im a genuine native soo ill tell it like how it is. i want my kids to learn about nighttime the right way. theres so many things to appreciate at night. theres differnt stars, the differnt phases of the moon, theres even certain checkpoints in navajo way during the night when certain things happen and ceremonies revolve around this time, theres animals that are only active at night. theres sounds and sights that only happen at night. i want all native kids to be familiar with these things. theres no reason to limit yourself or impose this stupidity of being afraid of night on children. the days of doo daa! and yee yah! are over. yess there are fools who live in neiborhooods but their rules dont apply to us. nighttime on the rez is great and equally important as the day.

[marie_popcan@hotmail]

im a genuine native soo ill tell it like how it is. i want my kids to learn about nighttime the right way. theres so many things to appreciate at night. theres differnt stars, the differnt phases of the moon, theres even certain checkpoints in navajo way during the night when certain things happen and ceremonies revolve around this time, theres animals that are only active at night. theres sounds and sights that only happen at night. i want all native kids to be familiar with these things. theres no reason to limit yourself or impose this stupidity of being afraid of night on children. the days of doo daa! and yee yah! are over. yess there are fools who live in neiborhooods but their rules dont apply to us. nighttime on the rez is great and equally important as the day.

I agree with you 100%, my kids are already grown and teaching their own children the same things. I would not show how afraid I was. The keeping them in at night had to .........The guy kidnapping was in our area. Plus we had tons of Mosquitoes in the area. My Grandchilren are been taught at a very young age. Thank-you for those words as I kow how you feel.

[Migiziwomen]

intersting point Bear, there are many inventions that were thunk up by some of us dumb indians, but the credit was not given, or even being part of the process. i guess i will answer this the same, i have white teeth, and white sheets, i have a white cat and a white car, i have a lot of music by white people. i know a lot of cherokees that are white, and..... well you get the idea right. my thought on this is that this is a little different than the other thread, as we with out a doubt use t hings in our lives that have credit going to a white person when the pats should go to some crafty native.
a question for Bear, if you would be so kind please to share with me what a 3 sister garden is? if you do not want to say it here i understand just pm or email me.
miigwetch Migizi

Do we have to live like we did pre contact to be living native? I mean does it make me less a native to have an indoor bathroom and a push button cordless phone or a microwave? Can I live with indoor plumbing and still grow a three sisters garden? Can I wear clothes made of cotton and polyester and still burn tobacco or speak my language? Can I wear tennis shoes and own an MP3 player and still sing the songs of my people? What if some of our modern conveniences were made by natives and we knew that for sure? Would this question still arise?