church or powwows

[Mato Winyan]

Mixing medicine is when you're politically correct with your belief to appease others, some preachers call it synergy. Like in Brazil and parts of Lousiana, when I was Catholic, we used to say Catholic by day and voodoo by night in some towns

Thanks for explaining.

So would being a christian and sundancing...... attending NAC meetings ..... and doing sweats be considered "mixing medicines"?

[Ndnsoldierboy]

powwows...I'm NOT a Christian, never have have been nor DO I want to be one.... And they call us heathens....no respect for other peoples beliefs...let me burn in the white mans hell....

I imagine Chief Joseph's Father is there cause he tore up the Bible cause of white folks screwing my tribe over...I'll be with him soon enough.

[LISA IRONMAKER]

powwows...I'm NOT a Christian, never have have been nor DO I want to be one.... And they call us heathens....no respect for other peoples beliefs...let me burn in the white mans hell....

I imagine Chief Joseph's Father is there cause he tore up the Bible cause of white folks screwing my tribe over...I'll be with him soon enough.

HEY, YOU TELL EM NDNSOLDIERBOY, LOL.............I LIKE UR QUOTE.........HAHAHAHAHAHAHA.........

[Kakeeya]

I have a lot of friends that believe in the bible and in Jesus, and that's cool for whatever works for them.

But as for myself...... I believe in our way of praying here to Creator and I strive to teach my grandchildren and family and stay with our traditional teachings.

Sometimes theres a really good powwow that I want to go to but I can't because I have to participate in a traditional gathering or ceremony, so I always choose our culture over powwows any day. Powows are fun and nice to see friends and family but its just a social event and there are more important things in life. *gasp*

[Furiously-Fancy]

Powows are fun and nice to see friends and family but its just a social event and there are more important things in life. *gasp*

No way.....really??? hu! hu!

[Lakota Wiyan]

HEY, YOU TELL EM NDNSOLDIERBOY, LOL.............I LIKE UR QUOTE.........HAHAHAHAHAHAHA.........

WOO HOOOO...way to go!!! Represent your families well!! You musta been brought up real respectful, huh??? YEAH MAN!!! Good old native Supremist speech, good for the soul, huh????
LETS PRACTICE OUT "TRADITIONAL WAYS' AND HATE HATE HATE HATE...whats good for the white man, MUST be good for us, huH??? YEAH...way to go....good representing there......



dang that felt good...good times....thanks..needed a big laugh like that......Cant' hardly wait to see what else you say.....hahahha

[LISA IRONMAKER]

WOO HOOOO...way to go!!! Represent your families well!! You musta been brought up real respectful, huh??? YEAH MAN!!! Good old native Supremist speech, good for the soul, huh????
LETS PRACTICE OUT "TRADITIONAL WAYS' AND HATE HATE HATE HATE...whats good for the white man, MUST be good for us, huH??? YEAH...way to go....good representing there......



dang that felt good...good times....thanks..needed a big laugh like that......Cant' hardly wait to see what else you say.....hahahha

heck yeah man..........you got that right, lol..........

[shorty]

~*BOTH~*

[Camp7Kiowa]

I do both. The Holy Spirit is in the drum cuz I can feel Him.

[Ndnsoldierboy]

whiteman can have his religion, just STAY the hell outta mine, and why are SO many Whites WANNABE into the SUNDANCE???? They ain't Lakota...

I went thru this garbage in Marine Bootcamp, the Drill Instructors made me go to some white service, I went ONCE, to the MORMAN service, eventually, but didn't like what I saw, especially the Mormons bull, about us being the 12th TRIBE,....???? FAWK that....We were here b-4 that shyt and still here...

If you want to start a fight bring up something about religion, government, or someones Mom....This thread is stupid....waste of my time and alot of other NDNs time as well....

posting from my vacation...hopefully this "STOOPID" thread is done now....

[badmaninc]

powwows...I'm NOT a Christian, never have have been nor DO I want to be one.... And they call us heathens....no respect for other peoples beliefs...let me burn in the white mans hell....

I imagine Chief Joseph's Father is there cause he tore up the Bible cause of white folks screwing my tribe over...I'll be with him soon enough.

Dude, I'm coming with you.

[Dweick]

As a Native Child I was raised in a white home
I was Baptized even before they were given permission to adopt me.
My adoptive mother was a church organist and choir director so I spent many hours in the church.
I attended a luthern school for jr high years and then I was sent to a southern baptist school for high school. I had to sit and listen to many pastors and self proclaimed christians telling me that no matter what I could never be saved or I would obviously go to hell because of how I was born and what I was.
throughout the years my mother worked at many differn't denominational churches and as I grew I learned that the basic belief was really the same but many are exclusive about who they believe could enter the kingdom of heven after death.
but as usual I was never included in those groups of saved people. because I was indian my mother put me in caticisum classes but when I was through I was not allowed to join the church with the rest of the kids in my class.
My mother said that becasue of my race it would be best for me to choose to do this at a later date and time in my life as an adult.
I didn't understand I always questioned this I grew up feeling never quite good enough for those church people. many people in my life made it clear that I should be greatfull that this family would allow me into thier home. blah blah blah,
I do not attend church regularly these days,
But I do believe in a creator somthing so much more speactacular than us on earth that created us and all life.
I believe that we have a purpose and that there are reasons we have to go through situations that we go through. good and bad
I don't know why but I do know from experience that life situations have made me who I am today. I look forward to each new day no matter what I am facing I try to be the best I can whenever possible.
for me attending powwows is very spiritual, and special
because I and learning when I go and experiencing the energy generated at these powwows it is a great feeling I have troulbe describing.


there is a song out there by a band called (XTC) the song is called (Dear God) it is from an album called skylarking circa 1986 ( you can find it on all music.com or myspace click on music and type in XTC and you can listen to this song
or just go here and it should start playing



MySpace URL:

http://www.myspace.com/dweick1964

it questions a person having trouble believing because of all that goes on in the world.
it is very moving in this matter
and it really brings to the surface why some people have trouble in dealing with the church religion Etc.

anyway nomtter how you feel all of you have a great holiday and may you and your familes enjoy every moment of this season.

[butterflynwind]

I tried the white churches and I do beleive in the Bible.It is just that the white churches have gotten to complicated and cost way to much do anything in it.What happen to just going to listen to the gospel and praying.I go to my Creek ceremonies and that is like our Native Church.We also have a white kind of version of church but we sing Native Gospel songs in white and Native tongue.We also shake ratttles and other insturments to.I like to go when I go to see my mom and relatives there.

[LISA IRONMAKER]

hola!! see what chu done takesallleads.......be sure and say a prayer for me.

[Joe's Dad]

hola!! see what chu done takesallleads.......be sure and say a prayer for me.