Global warming !

[GoggenGH]

Global warming is a FACT, is it? What do YOU think?

First of all, do you believe it is real, or is it a conspiracy, a hoax?
Second, if you do believe it is real, are we (the human race) responsible for it, or is it just a natural process?
I need you in order to decide what to believe!

Let’s start with a wikipedia-article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_warming
Global warming is the continuing rise in the average temperature of Earth's atmosphere and oceans. The evidence for this temperature rise is unequivocal] and, with greater than 90% certainty, scientists have determined that most of it is caused by human activities that increase concentrations of greenhouse gases in the atmosphere, such as deforestation and burning of fossil fuels. This finding is recognized by the national science academies of all the major industrialized countries.

What is the most significant cause of global warming?
Carbon Dioxide emissions:
The primary cause of global warming is Carbon Dioxide emissions. CO2 is being pumped into our atmosphere at an insane pace; 8 billion tons of CO2 entered the air last year. Of course some of this is due to natural activity such as volcanic eruptions and people breathing. But the Earth is equipped to easily absorb those into the normal regenerative process. No, the beginning of global warming was caused by fossil fuels being burned and emitting plenty of CO2.

Methane gas:
Methane is released into the atmosphere from a dozen major sources. These include natural and man made emissions. Natural release of Methane is primarily from wetlands, (including agriculture) termites, the ocean, and hydrates. Non-organic releases are based from, landfills, livestock, waste treatment, and biomass burning.

H2O water:
How can water be a cause of global warming? Our atmosphere contains a set parameter of water as vapor. This vapor absorbs and radiates heat as does every molecule in the air. But when the lower atmosphere (troposphere) has excess water vapor that gaseous H2O is a potent greenhouse gas.

Nitrous Oxide:
NO2 can make your car go faster, or make you relax at the dentist. It has quite few beneficial uses. But as a greenhouse gas all it manages to accomplish is to be one more ingredient in out atmospheric soup. Cars using catalytic converters, fertilizer plants, manufacture of nylon, and nitric acid as well as being produced naturally in our oceans and rain forests, produce Nitrous Oxide.

Let’s hope it’s a all fake, otherwise..
The Top 100 Effects of Global Warming - Global Warming Wrecks All the Fun

[trouble]

I have a hard time believing that AL GORE of all people, who claimed to have invented the internet, could have been correct on this topic....

[CandaePrincess]

and yet again...WTF?? Why is it so hard to believe Al Gore??? Why do you not like the man??? All he did was make a documentary on the studies regarding global warming. He didn't make it up! Has anyone actually seen the movie??? I think this idea that our chemicals, toxins, pollutants and emissions are not doing anything to the environment are a total act of denial or pure ignorance (literal meaning).

[trouble]

Why is it so hard to believe Al Gore??? Why do you not like the man???

I said I couldn't believe him because he claimed he invented the internet...I didn't say I didn't like him, just that I had a hard time believing him.......

I think this idea that our chemicals, toxins, pollutants and emissions are not doing anything to the environment are a total act of denial or pure ignorance

I did not state anything to the contrary...In fact I DO believe that the chemicals, toxins, pollutants and emissions ARE harmful to our environment...I never stated otherwise...

The scientists who did the studies, came up with the information...this is not AL GORE's research....AL GORE is a spokesman for this cause...the fact that he has mis-stated things such as his INVENTION of the internet,and other such misnomers, makes him an illogical spokesman for the cause..I think if they really want people to take a good close look at it, they should take AL GORE out of the picture.......

If I made you think that I disbelieved the scientific information, that was not researched by AL GORE, then please accept my humble apologies......

[subeeds]

I believe global warming is very real and that over the last century or so, humans are responsible for it. We have dumped so much toxic gunk into the Earth and over it, that it's finally rebelling. I think it's doing as much damage to us as it is to the Earth.

Years ago, I saw a story on 60 Minutes that has really stayed with me. The U.S. exported bunches of beef to some "under developed" country. I believe it was one of the Caribbean islands. After eating this beef, that had been pumped full of antibiotics, stuff to make it grow fast and who knows what else, something odd began happening to the children of this island. They started reaching puberty between 7 and 9 years old. They started developing all the things kids develope in their teens. I will never be convinced that the beef we sent them had nothing to do with that. That's just a small little drop compared to what has gone on with the world at "our" hands.

[Tibiki Kinew]

Actually the planet itself does this every 7000 years and does a shift in its planetary axis, no matter what we do ice melts and freezes elsewhere! There is no way to control it whatsoever!!!

http://www.habtheory.com/3/

here you can download the pdf file of his book in its entirety and see what I mean. The planet shifts its axis by about 89% and the new poles from thousands of years ago are evident as the sterile areas called desserts! Under tons of ice all life gets sterilized and all this is proven. That is why the Mayan calendar is so important !!! Enjoy the read!!!!

[Ndnsoldierboy]

it is nothing more than a hoax...

[WhoMe]

We are having an international indigenous forum on Global warming right now where I work. We have indigenous representives from New Guinea, Panama, Ethiopia, Russia, India, Ecuador, Kenya, Peru, Canada and the US. Two things that really stood out in my mind while listing to the effects of global warming on indigenous people is:

1. Indigenous people contribute the least to global warming yet suffer its effects the most.

2. Indigenous people's are experiencing the introduction of new plant and animal species in their homelands and are having to change their lifestyles in order to cope with these new species.



Luckily, representatives from NASA, The United Nations, U.S. Environmental Protection Agency, U.S. Forest Service, UNESCO and numerous other independent organizations are in the audience listening to these concerns and are fostering partnerships.

[CandaePrincess]

I believe global warming is very real and that over the last century or so, humans are responsible for it. We have dumped so much toxic gunk into the Earth and over it, that it's finally rebelling. I think it's doing as much damage to us as it is to the Earth.

Years ago, I saw a story on 60 Minutes that has really stayed with me. The U.S. exported bunches of beef to some "under developed" country. I believe it was one of the Caribbean islands. After eating this beef, that had been pumped full of antibiotics, stuff to make it grow fast and who knows what else, something odd began happening to the children of this island. They started reaching puberty between 7 and 9 years old. They started developing all the things kids develope in their teens. I will never be convinced that the beef we sent them had nothing to do with that. That's just a small little drop compared to what has gone on with the world at "our" hands.

it's happening to children in the U.S. as well b/c of all the hormones put in chicken and other meats. The people that work Farmer's Markets, etc., can put you into contact with grocers and farmers who sell their beef and chicken that do not use those hormones......

[GoggenGH]

1. Indigenous people contribute the least to global warming yet suffer its effects the most.

2. Indigenous people's are experiencing the introduction of new plant and animal species in their homelands and are having to change their lifestyles in order to cope with these new species.

I do agree with you! But are not the Indigenous people better in adapting themself to new enviroments, better than the "modern" man?

Do you have any idea what the general opinions are; global warming is caused by man, or is it just an natural process?

[Toolbox]

Tibiki is correct in that the Earth does change poles and there are natural shifts in the environment. In fact they found evidence that the Sahara desert was once full of life. When it comes to global warming we aren't solely responsible for starting it but we are responsible for accelerating it... we are basically throwing gasoline on a tire fire.

If I understand it correctly, because the Earth is getting warmer it will facilitate a more rapid evaporation of water from the oceans and other sources. Water vapor is a good insulator. Excess water in the air also means more rain, and let me tell you that in my neck of the woods we have had some of the worst rain fall in recent history, rivers and streams flooding entire towns. Rain mixing with the gasses in the atmosphere form acid rain.

It always amazes me that people can honestly think that pouring tons of oxides of carbon, sulfur, and nitrogen, ozone, CFC's, methane, and complex hydrocarbons into the atmosphere will have no effect whatsoever on the planet.

[yaahl]

I'm still having some difficulty for the warming cries when it's minus 45C for the better part of the winter here...I guess the "warming" is further south.

[GoggenGH]

I'm still having some difficulty for the warming cries when it's minus 45C for the better part of the winter here...I guess the "warming" is further south.

[Toolbox]

I'm still having some difficulty for the warming cries when it's minus 45C for the better part of the winter here...I guess the "warming" is further south.

LOL I agree with you there, especially after the winter we had here... LOL

The truth is that a difference in a few degrees isn't enough for us to feel the difference but it is enough to cause major heat waves and winters that are plagued with messed up storm systems, dumping massive snows in areas that don't normally see it. Like Washington DC never used to get the snow they got the last two years.


Again, what I take from all the facts, is that this is a natural event that we are accelerating.

[Tibiki Kinew]

Tibiki is correct in that the Earth does change poles and there are natural shifts in the environment. In fact they found evidence that the Sahara desert was once full of life. When it comes to global warming we aren't solely responsible for starting it but we are responsible for accelerating it... we are basically throwing gasoline on a tire fire.

If I understand it correctly, because the Earth is getting warmer it will facilitate a more rapid evaporation of water from the oceans and other sources. Water vapor is a good insulator. Excess water in the air also means more rain, and let me tell you that in my neck of the woods we have had some of the worst rain fall in recent history, rivers and streams flooding entire towns. Rain mixing with the gasses in the atmosphere form acid rain.

It always amazes me that people can honestly think that pouring tons of oxides of carbon, sulfur, and nitrogen, ozone, CFC's, methane, and complex hydrocarbons into the atmosphere will have no effect whatsoever on the planet.

Thank you! To add to this a bit more,,, the ice up north is just about gone the way it used to be, Greenland has got trees growing there for the first time in over 500 years! To make things worse, look at a map of antartica, it was once smaller than the USA and now the ice is well advanced in its build up and there are areas where the ice is now about 20 miles thick!!!!!!!! We are told that 90 % of the earths fresh water is stored in all that ice there. Chunks that break off are bigger than manhatten island... that tells you something about the vast size of the bergs alone.