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  • ABENEWA KWE
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    Originally posted by Stirbaby
    Well said.
    I love all these wise women here.
    Beautiful people, they are.
    me too! .. what u said.

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  • Stirbaby
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    Well said.
    I love all these wise women here.
    Beautiful people, they are.

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  • Chahta Diamond
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    I was not raised choctaw nor creek.I didn't really bother with the fact that I'm native.On the outside if you are shallow or ignorant I'm sure all you see is black.I am black,choctaw,creek and scottish.Because I was not brought up in native ways does that make me a wannabe?No,I don't think so.I dance at pow wow's,was introduced to the circle last year and am running for princess of Okla Chahta but because I have not been dancing my whole life does that make me a wannabe?NO,I don't think so.If anyone is mixed then they are mixed,period the end.Wannabe to me is someone who is not a native american at all.In cali we have a bunch of hobbiest out here who think that dancing on the weekends and making regalia is a hobby.That's a wannabe to me.A wannabe can be anyshade as well,not just white.Really think about who you call a wannabe and also think of others feelings.

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  • katezninen
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    .....

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  • Stirbaby
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    I am sincere in this question, I am not being sarcastic.

    Well, my answer was not to you specifically. But , have you seen people being sarcastic here/
    Sorry, I was being sarcastic.

    How do you hear your indian blood?

    Havent you heard your Indian blood?
    Mine sounds like... BOOM boom boom boom BOOM boom boom boom

    If you were raised Indain then you certainly identify with your culture.

    I was just lucky to be raised.

    Then if you move away or become estranged you may have a longing for it, miss it. But If you have no contact with Indian culture, how do you miss it?

    Well, my path keeps leading me to defending florida, especially sacred waters.

    Maybe you had contact, know your languageet. maybe a remnant of tribal society remained, I don't know so I cannot judge.

    We aparently have no such remnant of sociaety, but I am always discovering things about my ancestors, so I may find some .

    My concern is here are those on this board who bring up spritual identity. It smacks of new age hokey pokey.

    HEY, dont EVER knock the Hokey Pokey

    There is no such thing as being a spiritual indian. there is no such thing as genetic memory. Because someones ancestors were Indian or german or scottish does not grant special spritual knowledge to them..

    Well, you and I must aggree on one thing, that we cannot definitifly state such a thing.


    You can see where this makes folks uncomfortable.

    TRUE!

    But blood does grant access... you should be free to learn about your ancestral traditions.

    I have met white people you tell they were Inidans in a past life. UH.. I know of know traditional, aboriginal, tribal traditions that belived in reincarnation ( maybe there were). Many of us have had to deal with the New Age stuff It makes us gun shy...Thus the criticism..

    Hey, I am learning to understand this gun shyness.
    I am a 7th generation floridian on my white side, and Potano remnant on my red side.
    I do smirk a little when i hear people say, ' I've been in florida for 20 years, so I'm as good as native."

    Just a reminder, there are many paths to truth.
    It is wise to be aware of this.

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  • storm
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    I am sincere in this question, I am not being sarcastic. How do you hear your indian blood? I am sure this is a poetic image you are invoking, but i do not understand your position. If you were raised Indian then you certainly identify with your culture. Then if you move away or become estranged you may have a longing for it, miss it. But If you have no contact with Indian culture, how do you miss it? Maybe you had contact, know your language etc. maybe a remnant of tribal society remained, I don't know so I cannot judge you. My concern is here are those in this world who bring up spritual identity. They do not identify with thier genetic rootes so they wannabe indians. It smacks of new age hokey pokey. There is no such thing as being a spiritual indian. there is no such thing as genetic memory. Because someones distant ancestors were Indian or german or scottish does not grant special spritual knowledge to them.. You can see where this makes folks uncomfortable. But blood does grant access... you should be free to learn about your ancestral traditions. I have met white people who tell me they were Inidans in a past life. UH.. I know of know traditional, aboriginal, tribal traditions that believed in reincarnation ( maybe there were). Many of us have had to deal with the New Age stuff and It makes us gun shy...Thus the criticism..Ask yourself. Am I an Indian? ( by blood, traditions I guess you can make up your own definition)if yes.
    Learn what you can. You asked for Our definitions and got some good ones.
    Last edited by storm; 02-02-2004, 12:06 PM.

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  • Stirbaby
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    I was raised white, and when i , as a child, would ask why I was called a half breed, I was never given a straight answer by my elders.
    My elders lived in the scrub country in North Central florida, near the Oklawaha River.
    Our people have survived in florida for 10,000 years.
    I guess they thought it was better to pass for "white" and stay in the Land of the sun, than to be killed, enslaved, or force marched to a Rez.
    The Potano were a light skinned tribe, and in a state were taned people are all the rage, it was a survival move.
    I mean, I am still in my homeland, no matter what you call me.
    Can I swim like a demon, catch gators, bear, deer, fish and fowl, you bet.
    Can I suvive in the florida wilderness, sure.
    So, i have been taught most of the Potano ways by my elders.
    I was taught values, skills, and history.
    Including how to hide, how to blend in to escape predetors, even human predetors.
    We survived, we blended in, should we have jumped up and said, "Look over here Indian Killers, you missed us" ?
    I understand that my brothers and sisters who cannot pass have suffered a brutal oppression from the Euros.
    It is understandable that they would call me a wahnahbee.
    It is also understandable that it is now time for the Potano to come out and to join our Red Brothers and Sisters out n the open.
    It will take us all a while to get where we should be, can be, but I like our chances of living the Red way, living our way, again.
    I am Casey, and i am a Potano Descedent.
    You can call me anything you would like.
    I will call you anything I want.
    It is the desicions that I make that do more to define me than anything another may say.
    It is the same with you.


    I guess I am just a little more sympathetic with the whites, because I look so white.
    I am glad that when I was on my journey, and i am certainly still on that journey, I am glad that I was not discouraged, but encouraged to be the real me.

    Maybe there can be a place for all people in the better days ahead.
    Maybe even a place for all people on this board.

    I dont have to know you, to be here.
    I want to .
    I want to know you, your tribe, your life.
    In some way, each of us are reflections of others.
    What have I learned about you.
    Well, you are not so different from the epople in my life.
    You are funny, sweet, kind, loving, and all good things.
    you are mean, vengful, and many sad and bad things.
    It is your willingness to be human to each other that is most beautiful .
    I take your sarcasism to person, that is my own fault.
    I will not condemn you for calling people wahnahbees.
    I just want you to better understand the path of those who may be hearing their Indian Blood for the first time.
    The lost have a hard and lonely road.
    The lost are hungry for a familiar fireside, familier voices.

    Does any of this , my rambling, make any sense to you.
    Am I helping bring us together?

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  • Emmy
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    Originally posted by The Rat
    Where in the bluest of hell's did my picture come from? I'm going to burn down this entire city...
    on the web site ur in i guess its grand entry

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  • Stirbaby
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    Part of the reason for this poll is to get a better definition of wahnahbees.
    It is a pretyy sarcastic name to call someone, and I get a little twing of anger when I hear it used.
    I dont think it serves my spirit well to demean others .
    I have blue eyes.
    Am I white?
    Am I a wahnabee?

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  • The Rat
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    Originally posted by Emmy
    hey there stranger long time no see. well actually ur i saw ur pic on the web site for the new museum :)
    Where in the bluest of hell's did my picture come from? I'm going to burn down this entire city...

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  • ABENEWA KWE
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    Re: What is to be done with the Wahnahbees

    Originally posted by Stirbaby
    What is to be done with the mixed bloods that are awakening to their Native Elders.

    A. Mock them and discourage them .

    B. Develope a program, designed and administered by Mostly and Total bloods, that will first screen out the ones who are just lost from those coming home, and secondly raises these people up in the Red Way.

    C. Recomend a few books, and give them directions to some one elses Powwow.

    D. Sign em up for the Little Big Horn Reanactment, the one with blank bullets and live arrows.
    ??? this is very distressing to me ... "mixed bloods" would be the same as " mostly" ... what are u really trying to say .... please explain .... this is sooo stupid ... thats all i can say ... u should rephrase this or .... rethink what u are trying to say .. cuz u got me all confused. white ppl that are strictly white that are trying to be indian are wannabes.

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  • eyesrbrown4areason
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    geez, another wannabe thread...these are getting sickening

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  • storm
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    part of my job is counseling native students. Mostly urban kids, some FULLBLOODS. This year I have 4 kids who have never met their grandparents, or been home to the Rez. They only know, hip hop, and sagging and tons of crap culture, nothing Indian. I had a recent incident, with a fullblood parent,( her son was half white,and half navajo) she did not want me even talking about native ways, she wanted her kids as far away from it as she could get. These are indian kids not in "the culture." These are "don'twannabees" It is good to see so many folks on this board who care.

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  • ABENEWA KWE
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    Originally posted by storm
    Stirbaby: On several threads you have used the term wannabe? I
    agree with the last post. Wannabes are all white...I don't think most people would say a mixed blood is a wannabe...we mean Whites who wannabe Indians. As you know; other threads discuss when AN Indian IS Indian. Genetics as opposed to culture.
    Maybe we need a new word? Genetic Indians who did not grow up in the culture?? any ideas?
    hmmmm.... now, still if you are talking about mixed blood indians ... who did not grow up in " the culture" ... then u should should show them the way ..." the red way" and welcome them so that they offspring can carry on the traditions of their nation or nations... not shun em.

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  • storm
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    Stirbaby: On several threads you have used the term wannabe? I
    agree with the last post. Wannabes are all white...I don't think most people would say a mixed blood is a wannabe...we mean Whites who wannabe Indians. As you know; other threads discuss when AN Indian IS Indian. Genetics as opposed to culture.
    Maybe we need a new word? Genetic Indians who did not grow up in the culture?? any ideas?

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