i am australian but will be adopted as a cherokee this year

[FluteMaker]

its a cleaner

[Eagle Plumes]

oooooo Duuhh lol Ill have to add it to my supplys, my husband thinks I have a thing for pinsole and clorox clean up! just because I buy it in bulk at Sams Club

[FluteMaker]

your hubby problay knows dirtex

[JimGrayOwl]

Alright, this is all hogwash!!!!

First, the adoption ceremony can only happen one time a year and summer is not it!

Second, true tsalagi tradition does not contain sweats, that is a western thing. We have a different way of cleansing and it happens every day.

Second, who ever is purposing that he is a story teller is a fraud, especially if it is a "he."

Third, this person is not authorized by tsalagi tradition to do the wedding ceremony, if he were he wouldn't be involved in sweats or being a "story teller."

I believe you are going to get just what you deserve water. You would be much better off staying down under, you're getting ripped off with this bs wannabe stuff. Don't buy into it!

dohiyu,

Jim

[Little Man's Ma]

You can't get a clearer message than that!! I love straight talk!!

Just an interesting side-bar thought I had when I was reading this thread. Why, when reading all Running Water's posts, does she sound like she has a hollywood/spaghetti western Indian accent?? I can almost hear it!! lol

[FluteMaker]

im kinda wonderin if shes just gonna be a 'kee or if she gets to be a princess...... they let adoptees be princess too ,right?

[jwashee]

Take it easy running waters. When you use all caps, your YELLING at us. Im Cheyene/Arapaho and would like to know more about this adopting thing. Sounds like to me, if this happens too often, then all the "white Cherokee's" will be coming out of the woodwork.

[ndnlady1306]

As I have been sayin' an' will say again - why can't you be happy with who you are? why do you want to be someone that you are not? are you not satisfied with what the creator has made you? If that's the case then you have some real problems. I think whoever is going to be adoptin' is full of *!it ! ! ! !

[ndnlady1306]

I am talking in the future in years to come if i remarry and if i marry a cherokee person ok, as before i meet my late husband i meet a cherokee man who wanted to marry me and i would learn to become a proper cherokee wife if i did marry.


Of course i not thinking on those lines at present, i mourn my late husband all the time and i am crying for him, nearly all day and night ok as i had known him for a long time and he knew my interest in tradional native american culture.

In fact before we got married it was his idea for me to go to usa to see pow wows etc as he did not want to fly because of 9/11 and the only reason i was left some little money from my late mother who loved travelling around the world so i was able to do so in remember of her.

I thought maybe some time this year i would go back just to see pow wows and do sweats and no other reason.

And no it is not a resume ok just stating the facts as i see it.

And no the people who are are my friends understand this and are not embrassed to know me even if they are cherokee or whatoever.

Running Water

Okay! Tell me, what is a proper Cherokee wife? Why didn't you marry the "Cherokee" man before? Was he all "WRONG" for you at the time? I know that you haven't posted a resume, you just "wannabe"!! !

[ndnlady1306]

I AM TAKING IT VERY SEROUS OK, MY CHEROKEE ELDER AND I HAVE KNOWN EACH OTHER FOR OVER 2 AND HALF YEARS AN, AND WE BOTH WANTED THIS AND THOUGH I HAVE NO RED BLOOD IN ME, I WILL BECOME A WHITE CHEROKEE AND WILL DO MY BEST TO REPRESENT AND ALWAYS BE PROUD OF THE NATIVE AMERICAN RACE. I HAVE CHOOSEN THIS PATH SINCE 1 WAS 11-13 YEARS OLD.

I ALSO TAKE CARE OF THE FAMILY I HAVE ALREADY TAKEN CARE OF HIM WHEN HE DIED AND CAME BACK, AND ALSO MY LATE HUSBAND WHO PASSED ON WITH RECTUM CANCER AND I WAS THERE FOR HIM 24 HOURS A DAY AND SAW HE PASS ON. MY LATE MOTHER HAD PARKINSON DISEASE AND I WAS THERE FOR HER ALSO.

I AM 58YEARS OLD AND I HAVE BEEN THERE FOR MY FAMILY.



RUNNING WATERS

CALM DOWN!!! Your blood is red - it just doesn't contain any NATIVE DNA. Even if you were(are) adopted you still will not be native.
Do you not have any children? Are you that alone to wanna be something you are not? I will never satisfied with people who are trying to people they aren't ! ! WHY CAN'T YOU BE HAPPY WITH WHO YOU ARE JUST WHERE YOU ARE?

[ndnlady1306]

OUCH! A little harsh, don't you think?

I'm not a member of the Cherokee tribe, although my great-grandmother was, and I'm not Anishnabe, either. What I'm curious about is why is it any time someone mentions the name "Cherokee" folks want to label them a wannabe?

True, the Cherokee Nation of Oklahoma has no bq requirement, but does that mean that Cherokees are "less indian" than other tribes with more stringent requirements? If running waters had said she was being adopted by the Kiowa, Choctaw, Dine, etc., would you be grilling her like this? It just seems like anytime someone says "Cherokee" the alarm bells start ringing.

I don't pretend to know anything about Cherokee adoption practices or the validity thereof, but I think that is a CHEROKEE issue, not a Chickasaw, Anishnabe or even just NDN issue. If her elder is out of line in respect to the adoption process, shouldn't his tribe be the judge, jury and executioner on it and not us?

Our position as NDNs within the framework of the powwow forum should be one of education and encouragement, and if correction of error is to be done, let's do it gracefully. She didn't come on here trying to sell herself as a "Cherokee princess", or offering to sell medicine ceremonies like that guy in NY. She was just saying hello.

So....in the words of Rodney King, "Can't we all just get along?"

Ok...I'll get off my soapbox now...

Because the majority of them are "WANNABE'S".
The Cherokee Nation of Oklahoma are begingin to have requirement to be on thier roles,too. if you don't meet the requirement you are off of the role!
I am a Cherokee and I think any one with any type of NATIVE DNA can have their say.
This used to be our country before other nationalities came and took over - we didn't get a say then, so let us have our say NOW ! !

[ndnlady1306]

Well, if the creator wanted you to be native you would have been BUT he wanted you to be white and Australian.
So it must be romantic dream if you think about long enough.

[FluteMaker]

hey, ive been meaning to ask......ive never been to one of these 'cherokee adoption' things....so do we like bring presents and stuff or what? oh, and do we like throw rice or anything when its done,like at a wedding?

[Josiah]

I must give a Bigggg Sigh

Too often have our ways been misused by people that have only one thing in mind and that is money!!!
I hope this person is not asking for some kind of "donation" to do this "adoption"
"Western Cherokees" or Cherokee Nation of Oklahoma do adopt, but into a Family...
This does not make you a Cherokee!!!
It makes you part of that Family

And just what the hell is a "White Cherokee"???

[Kiwehnzii]

There are many tribal nations in Australia who's ways are close to the earth. Many beautiful ceremonies.

Wouldn't be wiser to adopt yourself into one of those tribes?