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  • #16
    Okay.

    Well, I found some more info last night that I didn't get posted.

    I figured that it was Reatha that she died with.

    Bertha was born sept 7, 1904 and she died oct 18, 2003 in Craighead, Ar. She married James H. Cox. I would get her death cert and see if it shows where she was born, her birth info might give you some leads.

    Did you ever get Ammons birth info? That should give you leads as to where he was born and if all the kids were born in the same county then it would stand to reason that Minnie died there and that's where to start looking. It might be misspelled or Minnie might have been a nick name and she might have had a different actual first name.

    Reatha married Cecil E. Coleman and i found death info on him as being sept 1974 in Hempstead, AR. But I didn't find any death info on her at all. Unless she remarried after his death and I didn't find that at all, doesn't meant it didn't happen. But you could look for their marriage record in Craighead Co, AR and that should lead you to where she was born and if Minnie died in Childbirth with her, then that's where Minnie Died as well. You would just have to look for it.

    Do you remember Minnie's brother's name?

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    • #17
      Originally posted by timmy tiger View Post
      Pocohantas never married John Smith, so that's not your line at all.
      Don't worry you mite not be as fubar as you think! While Pocohantas never married John Smith, legends say they most certainly snagged. They met at the Blue Corn Moon powwow, and ledgend says they had a love child. The child stayed with the people when Pocahantes went over the big water. So while they may have never married, don't sweat hearing they did'nt have a child. At least this is what I've heard, I wasn't there at the time. There are also many movies that document their love.
      ScarryWolf

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      • #18
        Originally posted by BigChef View Post
        Don't worry you mite not be as fubar as you think! While Pocohantas never married John Smith, legends say they most certainly snagged. They met at the Blue Corn Moon powwow, and ledgend says they had a love child. The child stayed with the people when Pocahantes went over the big water. So while they may have never married, don't sweat hearing they did'nt have a child. At least this is what I've heard, I wasn't there at the time. There are also many movies that document their love.
        Yep, I've heard the same rumors that you are speaking of.

        But then, also, in England the historians there have found a ledger that they claim is John Smith's original events and accounts of his time with her people and supposedly it states taht they were just friends and that nothing ever happened romantically between them and where he supposedly admits that he made all that stuff up himself after she passed away to regain favor with the English people 'cause he was loosing the favor of the people and they loved her so much that he used his friendship with her to advance his political career.

        But hey that could have all been made up too.

        As you said I wasn't around back then either. But proving it would be another task all togerher.LOL

        I think we'd need the aliens for that one.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by timmy tiger View Post
          Yep, I've heard the same rumors that you are speaking of.

          But then, also, in England the historians there have found a ledger that they claim is John Smith's original events and accounts of his time with her people and supposedly it states taht they were just friends and that nothing ever happened romantically between them and where he supposedly admits that he made all that stuff up himself after she passed away to regain favor with the English people 'cause he was loosing the favor of the people and they loved her so much that he used his friendship with her to advance his political career.

          .
          It's all man's basic nature. John boy had a wife back home in jolly old england. So of course his ledgers were doctored. "Dear diary, today I met this lil girl named Pocahontas, she was really tryin to snag me but all I could think of was my Bessie back home. Plus she was too young for me, immature and all. She was real ugly and acted all stank, so I hooked her up with ol' Rolfie (I hate that guy). Boy, I sure do miss my wife".

          Of course after ol Bessie died and John Smith was old and couldn't pull hot chicks anymore, he got to thinking of the fine native women he saw from back in his younger days on turtle island he started braggin around about that one time at the blue corn moon powwow.
          ScarryWolf

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          • #20
            Originally posted by BigChef View Post
            It's all man's basic nature. John boy had a wife back home in jolly old england. So of course his ledgers were doctored. "Dear diary, today I met this lil girl named Pocahontas, she was really tryin to snag me but all I could think of was my Bessie back home. Plus she was too young for me, immature and all. She was real ugly and acted all stank, so I hooked her up with ol' Rolfie (I hate that guy). Boy, I sure do miss my wife".

            Of course after ol Bessie died and John Smith was old and couldn't pull hot chicks anymore, he got to thinking of the fine native women he saw from back in his younger days on turtle island he started braggin around about that one time at the blue corn moon powwow.



            Now that was a good one.

            Hmm but it makes me wonder what her diary would read if she wrote one.

            Something like:

            "Dear Diary. I met some old white dude today from England. He has an old hag of a wife and showed me her picture. He was coming on to me pretty hard and I just wasn't interested in his oldness. Oh but he has a friend named Rolf. Oh now he's choice and I wouldn't mind getting jiggy with him any time any place. He can light my tee pee fire any time he wants.":



            I guess I should think twice about going to a corn moon pow wow. Wouldn't want some old guy thinking of me that way when he can't give change anymore.

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