Hi :)

[Joe's Dad]

neither and both.... I'm refering to the overall net effect of human interaction so far as a global culture. Within that global culture there are countless sub cultures. draw the lines where you will, SOME of those will produce individuals with no spiritual awareness at all and/or late sleepers.... so here we are.... with me trying to stand up for the other innocent late bloomers who happen to wander by in their quest.... (It's the drum and frybread drawing 'em like moths to the flame!!)

MY individual (lack of) culture has no prohibitions on discussing spiritual issues, it rather encourages it for the betterment of all mankind, albeit this is not the forum for those discussions....

And it's all how you approach cultures 'outside' of your own.

Let's take you for instance. You've been being watched by many since the day you got here. You came in a respectful way, not trying to 'outNDN the NDN'. And while some may think this is only an internet board, many of us know a person, who knows a person, who knows a person, from your area.

Now let's take the OP. First words out of their cyber mouth was 'spirituallity found in 2006'.

Now, in our racial culture, the respectful person comes in and gets coffee. What do you think happens to the other person? Read the posts from those above.

What do you, Mr. Muttly, get out of poems written about 'spirit guides'. Now I bet you can tell me of the storm fingers coming over the mountains at Arlee while your camping in a teepee or tent.

See what we see? But alas, you are correct. This is better discussed in a different forum over a cup of coffee and some frybread.

[Muttly]

BTW, Hello Starlight!!

And it's all how you approach cultures 'outside' of your own.

Let's take you for instance. You've been being watched by many since the day you got here. You came in a respectful way, not trying to 'outNDN the NDN'. And while some may think this is only an internet board, many of us know a person, who knows a person, who knows a person, from your area.

Now let's take the OP. First words out of the cyber mouth was 'spirituallity found in 2006'.

Now, in our racial culture, the respectful person comes in and gets coffee. What do you think happens to the other person? Read the posts form those above.

What do you, Mr. Muttly, get out of poems written about 'spirit guides'. Now I bet you can tell me of the storm fingers coming over the mountains at Arlee while your camping in a teepee or tent.

See what we see? But alas, you are correct. This is better discussed in a different forum over a cup of coffee and some frybread.

Yes, i think i see your point and agree that one must approach all others in a respectful manner regardless of where any cultural lines are drawn, and the brash and bold will be held at arms length or shunned completely (for good reason). Have to admit I got a HUGE LAUGH from some of the responses above, still snickering....

"Now let's take the OP. First words out of the cyber mouth was 'spirituallity found in 2006'." to me; spoken as a child would recount to adults their awakening from a deep sleep for the first time.. I guess I tend to give a wide degree of tolerance to the under informed....

"What do you, Mr. Muttly, get out of poems written about 'spirit guides'. Now I bet you can tell me of the storm fingers coming over the mountains at Arlee while your camping in a teepee or tent."
for me, others words trying to describe the undescribable only serve to mark their progress (or lack of) toward ultimate understanding. i'm a lousy poet and would beat up the words with the best of 'em....

I've got the coffee on....

[Muttly]

but there is a strange story behind that

I like strange stories, especially if true.... do tell....

[Muttly]

Now I bet you can tell me of the storm fingers coming over the mountains at Arlee while your camping in a teepee or tent

Hmm, no but the wind DID kick up a bit for the Grand Entry on the 4th now that you mention it.... and where is the snake dance smiley??

[RestlessN8iv]

No offense taken at all. It just raises eyebrows when the first thing out of someone's mouth is about their spirituality (or many other topics of interest), even before the information that is relevant to the group they're introducing themselves to. ;)

Please forgive the skepticism. We get a lot of people on here who want to "play shaman".

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