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They wouldn't take me due to health problems when I tried to join at 18. Would if I could. Have a daughter and son-in-law serving. Youngest won't be able to serve due to health problems.Courage is just fear that has said it's prayers. -
nope not a chance. i don't fight for what i don't believe in. I also think violence just leads to more violence and solves nothing.Originally posted by Wolfn
i'd go to prison if i can't be a draft dodger.I'm interested more in self determination than gender equity. In other words, changing white men for white woman in the structures of power, does nothing to transform the opression in my community.
"You need to find yourself a girl, mate... Or, perhaps the reason you practice three hours a day is that you already found one and are otherwise incapable of wooing said strumpet. You're not a eunuch, are you? [looks down]"
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Originally posted by Wolfn
YES......
WITHOUT A DOUBT
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Does that mean that you don't beleive in freedom ?Originally posted by redthunderComment
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Are we talking about a beer or the military ? lolOriginally posted by Wolfn
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would that mean i don't believe in freedom? Now what's wrong with the question, anyone?Originally posted by GRANDSON OF ZEELA
It's an oxymoron.
If they're drafting you, they're basically saying go to war or lose your freedom (go to jail). Freedom is defined as being free of restraints and being able to choose. They're not giving you a choice on wether or not you want to go to war, they're telling you to serve and if you don't there will be discsiplianry actions. So how in the hell would i not believe in freedom?
I believe i should choose wether or not i want to fight this war or not.I'm interested more in self determination than gender equity. In other words, changing white men for white woman in the structures of power, does nothing to transform the opression in my community.
"You need to find yourself a girl, mate... Or, perhaps the reason you practice three hours a day is that you already found one and are otherwise incapable of wooing said strumpet. You're not a eunuch, are you? [looks down]"
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you didn't answer the question....its says if there was a draft, would you serve?
the answer is either a yes or no...you make it so difficult.sigpic
R.I.P. my Bros from the 1st MAR DIV, 3rd MAR DIV, 25th I.D., 10th MTN DIV, V Corps, 170th IBCT who gave their lives in the Cold War, Marines we lost in Korea during Team Spirit '89 & Okinawa '89- bodies never recovered, Panama, 1st Gulf War, Somalia, Afghanistan, Iraq...
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redthunder...Originally posted by redthunder
'Freedom of choice' has been given to us by those who have a)fulfilled their military obligation due to the draft, or b)enlisted in a branch of the armed forces because they believed it would ensure our 'Freedom of choice'. I would not like to think of what this country would be like if we lived under a regime that would control our everday mode of life.
I had the honor and privilege to enter basic military training with the last group of draftees in 1972. I enlisted, but would have been drafted.
As a veteran, I know I have ensured you the right to have your freedom of choice.
Why must I feel like that..why must I chase the cat?
"When I was young man I did some dumb things and the elders would talk to me. Sometimes I listened. Time went by and as I looked around...I was the elder".
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If women were included in the draft then yes I would go. I actually believe that women should be elligible for the draft but I realize this is a controversial topic and probably many would disagree with me."No snowflake in an avalanche ever feels responsible"
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i did, why don't you read the post above it? "not a chance" means no.Originally posted by NdnsoldierboyI'm interested more in self determination than gender equity. In other words, changing white men for white woman in the structures of power, does nothing to transform the opression in my community.
"You need to find yourself a girl, mate... Or, perhaps the reason you practice three hours a day is that you already found one and are otherwise incapable of wooing said strumpet. You're not a eunuch, are you? [looks down]"
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Who Calls For A Draft???
What kind of DRAFT are we talking about here?
Are we talking about beening DRAFTED by a Warrior Party to defend your Nation???
Because that's the only one I should be on!!MinimumComment
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thanks for pointing that out...missed that 1...my bad...Originally posted by redthundersigpic
R.I.P. my Bros from the 1st MAR DIV, 3rd MAR DIV, 25th I.D., 10th MTN DIV, V Corps, 170th IBCT who gave their lives in the Cold War, Marines we lost in Korea during Team Spirit '89 & Okinawa '89- bodies never recovered, Panama, 1st Gulf War, Somalia, Afghanistan, Iraq...
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Do you believe that under no circumstances should an individual be drafted? Or that in some situations it might be warranted?Originally posted by redthunder"No snowflake in an avalanche ever feels responsible"
"You cannot give the people who have wronged you so much power that they take away your dreams"Comment
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Since they don't draft women, I have to say no. As the mother of a son who somehow got 2 draft cards with 2 different numbers-again I say no. Neither one of us believes in the thing in Iraq and I would stuff him in the trunk of my car and head for Canada with him. I lost a cousin who was more like a brother in Afganistan in Oct. of '01. He ran search dogs and was with a special unit hunting Bin Laden. Since they weren't supposed to be where they were when he got killed, they lied to his son and told him his Dad was killed in a "training" accident. Last Sept. my nephew died about 15miles from where my cousin died-also hunting the same vermin. He was Cheyenne on one side of the family and Italian on the other. He had an incredible gift for languages. He looked and spoke like an Afgani. He was doing things under orders, out of uniform. So I refuse to give any more of my blood to this war. If somone comes over here, I'll throw a rifle into my son's hands and grab one too and head to the beach to defend this country, but otherwise, Uncle Sam can kiss my dog. For those of you who have loved ones there, I will say prayers for their safe return and hope you never walk in my shoes. I am passionate about this, but I mean no offense to anyone. Sometimes, I can't see past the pain of losing parts of my heart.Take nothing for granted. Life can change irrevocably in a heartbeat.
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