"goats"

[WhoMe]

I have tried angora and icelandic sheep. Nothing compares to the 5 to 7 inch waivey hair found on a butchered goat on the Navajo Reservation! *L Mine came to me slightly stiff.

I measured my legs below the knee, around the ankles and from below my knee to my ankle. I cut out the dimensions of the goat hide to fit my legs, for each side.

I then traced the outline of each side with a pencil, on white canvas.

I cut the canvas 1/2 inches larger than the outline with pinking shears and folded it under before I sew it to the back of the goat's skin. Then I sewed it down all four sides with imitation sinew.

Then I fold a 2-inch strip that I sew to the length of the top of the goats. I leave an extra three inches to over lap.

I attach velcro to the overlaped piece and sew the other part of the velcro to the opposite side so that they will fasten.

Then I duct tape the whole backing. (When I am travelling, it is easy to wipe the sweat off and it won't linger in the suitcase).

Finally I sew a 2-inch piece of velcro to opposite sides of the of the goats approximately 3-inches from the bottom. When attached, they hold the middle of my goats together.

I can put both goats on in less than a minute. I put my bells over the two inch white backing on top so that they won't dig into my leg.

[Iowa_Boy]

Maybe you all don't know this, I guess I just assumed, but you do know that many fancy dancers up north are actually wearing polyester white rope that is untangled? You sew the rope on the backing, then carefully unweave it. You can throw it in the wash when it gets dirty and it looks real.

[Iowa_Boy]

I'm not a goat specialist, I have two kinds:

1) the long white hair

2) the short kinky white hair

I call the first one angora or mt goat and the second one icelandic sheep (that's what the trader called it).

[Iowa_Boy]

here's some pics of my new hides, just came in this morning, go them from Ohio, you know, where the real powwows are.

[lostsalt]

Angoras with out any doubt. If you can afford them, get them. The hair that hangs from the hide looks completely different. The best way i can put it is.
Ang. goat hair has that "Jerry Curl" or "Soul Glow" look to it without being wet. Ringlets on the hair are much prettier. Islandic and mt Goat,has too much downy,fluffy type fur.
Definately, back them. My method is to take a good thinkness trash bag, double it, sew it to to the goats and clothe backing. if you dont back them, they will not last 2 years.

[Iowa_Boy]

Here's a pic of Lostsalt picking out his new goats at the KC Indian Center powwow this last may.

[Tibiki Kinew]

Okay I don't get it why would you drag a poor goat around at powwows that is so unnatural and to zip them together so cruel what if one has PMS!!!
Then do you keep them side by side zipped up so that you can stand on them while they walk around???
Or are you like one of them old time settlers from austrailia that had another function for sheep and goats????
I just don't get the ideas that goes through your mind when you need animals instead of a willing partner with you!

Or as a teen would say,,, "What were you thinking????"

[tribaltagz]

LOL Good'ern Iowa-B! Yeah I've noticed that so few traders sell any more. Now all you see is southwestern jewelry, toys, and guatemalans selling ponchos! Last year at Crow Fair all the spots around the arbor were taken by asians and latinos selling Oriental TRading Co. Crap and all the native vendors were stuck down the side road! You hardly ever see people who sell supplies or even beadwork or other cool stuff.

Also forgot tibetan lamb..... anyone use that?

[Iowa_Boy]

I have a set of each, one icelandic sheep and one mt goat. Each is backed, I used to use zippers to put them on, but just stopped unzipping them one day. Just pull them up, little tape across the top and your set. (I do have a sock folded over the top as well as my ribbon drop tie and bells to help hold them up as well).

I rotate them, or wear whatever i feel like.

Old school 1960s/70s had dyed goats, I've been thinking about a striped set, but haven't done it yet.

I picked my up at a powwow, back when there actually were traders, so few nowadays, you'll probably have to rely on a on-line trading post.

[WhoMe]

How do you make them? first you get a boy goat, and then a girl goat. Put on a little Barry White music and then let the magic happen!

OMG!

Now THAT was funnnnnnnnnny!!!

"Put on a little Barry White..." *L

GOOD ONE IOWA!!!!

[Iowa_Boy]

Ok what does everyone prefer, icelandinc sheep or angora goat? Where's the best place to get hides? How do you make them? Do you prefer to back yours to protect from sweat? What are the different styles of wearing them, i.e. Northern, Southern, Old Skool....?

How do you make them? first you get a boy goat, and then a girl goat. Put on a little Barry White music and then let the magic happen!

[tribaltagz]

Ok what does everyone prefer, icelandinc sheep or angora goat? Where's the best place to get hides? How do you make them? Do you prefer to back yours to protect from sweat? What are the different styles of wearing them, i.e. Northern, Southern, Old Skool....?