Gourd Society in NC?

[LSS]

Just out of curiosity, does anyone know if there is a Gourd Society amongst the Eastern Band of Cherokee?

If not, does anyone know of any Gourd Dancers near the mountains of North Carolina? Any information in helping me to pull off a dance would be greatly appreciated.


Jason

[timmy tiger]

Just out of curiosity, does anyone know if there is a Gourd Society amongst the Eastern Band of Cherokee?

If not, does anyone know of any Gourd Dancers near the mountains of North Carolina? Any information in helping me to pull off a dance would be greatly appreciated.


Jason

I was talking to my bro a little while back about the Gourd dances in OK. He did tell me that there was something called a gourd dance in Cherokee but that it is a very different dance then the ones in OK and it's not really a society known in NC.

I'm supposed to be talking to my Uncle here today or tomorrow. I will ask him about it and let you know in a PM what he tells me. But I really don't think that there's one like the ones in OK. I've never heard of it before and he tells me about alot of the dances and societies there. Well, actually I know alot of the member's and they don't speak of it.

[WhoMe]

Didn't they just have gourd dancing at the Lumbee Powwow in NC?

[timmy tiger]

I was talking to my bro a little while back about the Gourd dances in OK. He did tell me that there was something called a gourd dance in Cherokee but that it is a very different dance then the ones in OK and it's not really a society known in NC.

I'm supposed to be talking to my Uncle here today or tomorrow. I will ask him about it and let you know in a PM what he tells me. But I really don't think that there's one like the ones in OK. I've never heard of it before and he tells me about alot of the dances and societies there. Well, actually I know alot of the member's and they don't speak of it.

Oops, I meant in that 1st paragraph to say Cherokee not NC. I don't know about the whole state. I only know about many of the societies in Cherokee.

[legalstraight]

No gourd society with EBCI......
There may be some gourd dances down around Lumerton and up in to Charlotte way, but gourd comes from a different tradition.

[shawndaes]

Gourd Dance Societies are for KIOWA's! I believe only 1 other tribe was given the right to have one. How many times will this be posted?
Yes, there was just a gourd dance on Saturday at Lumbee.
I also heard that a local Color Gaurd was trying to put a Society together and the members were EBC. This is probably what your talking about. Don't ask them! You know the drum that does all the gourd dancing around you area. Ask them or ask a Kiowa.

[Joe's Dad]

Maybe they're using a different type of gourd!!! j/k

[Kawymah2]

The Otoe Tribe is the only other tribe the Kiowa Gourd Clan has ever given permission to Gourd Dance.

[legalstraight]

What about COmanche? I thought they had one

[timmy tiger]

There is no Gourd Society in Cherokee, but that was known before.

What the person I had talked to before was refering to was a type of social dance nothing like what is done in OK and is a totally different thing as I stated before. And as far as the my Uncle knows it's not done in Cherokee by all. He said that if it does exist it's based on the town, not all. And he doesn't live in the town that the reference was made about so it could be there, but not all over. And again, not anything like the ones in OK at all.

[fretg]

The Otoe Tribe is the only other tribe the Kiowa Gourd Clan has ever given permission to Gourd Dance.

The Golden State Gourd Society was given permission by the Kiowa Gourd Clan, by then, President Taft Hainta.

[Kawymah2]

Correct - but I was referring to a Tribe. If I am correct, the Golden State Org has several Gourd Clan members as officers and it follows the protocal of the Kiowa Gourd Clan.

[The Last Joe-hican]

There is a gourd dance at AICA every year. Most of the dancers are either in White Bear or White Star.