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  • #16
    Many of the sentiments in this thread I couldn't agree with more! I'm a white man and I dance..but I wear Northern Traditional MEN'S clothes. The one question I had in my mind when I read your very first post was "WHY?" WHY would you want to cross dress? Sure, there are switch dances at powwows, but that's mostly a novelty..and I know some people don't look upon that favorably.

    Like me, you're white. You already take the chance of "ruffling feathers" just by donning regalia in the first place. You take that chance because this is not your native culture. You are asking to be accepted as a guest in this circle. Just as when you're a guest in someone's home, you don't offend your host! Pardon my french, but why in the HELL would you even THINK of doing something you KNOW has such a high liklihood of ruffling feathers, as you put it?

    The rule of thumb I tell non-indian people interested in dancing to attempt to stay as "middle of the road" as they can get. I say this all the time concerning dancing and clothes....just because you see one or two people doing something, doesn't mean you should do it, too. This is not your culture...You're a guest here. You should try everything you can to not step on toes.

    If you want to dance, find one of the women's styles that inspires you, research the dance and regalia, put the clothes together to the best of your ability, and dance to the best of your ability. Show respect to the style, those with whom you dance, and those that came before you.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by C_Rock77
      Many of the sentiments in this thread I couldn't agree with more! I'm a white man and I dance..but I wear Northern Traditional MEN'S clothes. The one question I had in my mind when I read your very first post was "WHY?" WHY would you want to cross dress? Sure, there are switch dances at powwows, but that's mostly a novelty..and I know some people don't look upon that favorably.

      Like me, you're white. You already take the chance of "ruffling feathers" just by donning regalia in the first place. You take that chance because this is not your native culture. You are asking to be accepted as a guest in this circle. Just as when you're a guest in someone's home, you don't offend your host! Pardon my french, but why in the HELL would you even THINK of doing something you KNOW has such a high liklihood of ruffling feathers, as you put it?

      The rule of thumb I tell non-indian people interested in dancing to attempt to stay as "middle of the road" as they can get. I say this all the time concerning dancing and clothes....just because you see one or two people doing something, doesn't mean you should do it, too. This is not your culture...You're a guest here. You should try everything you can to not step on toes.

      If you want to dance, find one of the women's styles that inspires you, research the dance and regalia, put the clothes together to the best of your ability, and dance to the best of your ability. Show respect to the style, those with whom you dance, and those that came before you.
      Roger that C Rock
      Asema Is Sacred
      Traditional Use, Not Misuse
      Wakan Tanka please have compassion on me.
      OK Niji we are running a train with red over yellow at this powwow.

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      • #18
        I appreciate the backup

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        • #19
          The discussion that was not under the topic of women in regalia was moved... you can find it by clicking on the link herel

          mato


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          • #20
            my comments were directed towards this thread...

            From my perspective, when someone says no about dancing rights and permissions... one shouldn't run to someone else who will tell them yes. There's tons of websites out there ran by other non-natives giving and selling permissions but thats not how it works. I've served in the military and have earned my feathers. But I'm a woman and I know my place and happily and very proudly do I dance women's traditional because thats our traditions and thats our customs.

            To respect us means even accepting NO as an answer.
            The only time its too late to start dancing is when you're dead.

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            • #21
              I am new around here and some of you younger folks sure have strong opinions. All I can add is a little history. At least in OKlahoma there have been women in Fancy dance outfits for 30 years. Not many. Usually teen girls. Some have competed. At Stroud powow for years there was an afternoon competition of women in their husbands straight dance clothes, It was hillarious.
              I have listened to folks get real mad and others think it was great.
              However, these were all Indians. There is enough controversy about white folks dancing at all.
              My bark is worse than my bite

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