What kind of feathers should I use for my traditional roach spreader? Jumbo, pointers or what? I have a few jumbo barred turkey feathers, unpainted, and they are in good condition but I dont know if I should use them
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I agree with the others, get the best painted you can, or go with a decent all white turkey tail feather. Use good masking tape on the edges and trim it to look like an outside eagle tail feather. Always tape feathers before timming. Now for the lecture: There is a reason these feathers are used. there is a reason and a tradition around every part of these clothes. To best honor them do your best to follow the traditions. I know the difficulty of obtaining feathers etc. etc.This is a hard way. We are told on a male dancer there is one thing you should not fake, That roach feather. You can make a macaw fan, etc. But that roach should be for real...For me (but I am a hard head stuck in my ways) I would not dance without that feather.
I guess there are rules in scouts about feathers...They have good intentions, but only illustrate their ignorance of these ways.
If you went to a Catholic church the priest would insist on his religious materials being authentic. However,Good Luck..Last edited by storm; 01-31-2004, 02:45 PM.My bark is worse than my bite
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Pards;
I think we had a thread on this a while ago . The answer to this is mainly just use hand painted turkey. I use some Mature eagle hand painted ones that a friend and I painted . we sat down one day at dinner and painted all the feathers for his bustle, and still had time to watch " the lord of the rings: two towers " before we bedded down for the night.Try looking and checking around with people , most expierenced dancer's and crafters will teach you how to paint feathers for free.
Rob young
'i believe I can fly'
Rob Young
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"I know the difficulty of obtaining feathers etc. etc.This is a hard way. We are told on a male dancer there is one thing you should not fake, That roach feather. You can make a macaw fan, etc. But that roach should be for real...For me (but I am a hard head stuck in my ways) I would not dance without that feather.
I guess there are rules in scouts about feathers...They have good intentions, but only illustrate their ignorance of these ways."
It is hard to obtain feathers Most of all real eagles. I have a fan that is large and all barred turkey feathers. There are regulations in BSA saying that all bird of prey feathers are a big "no-no" and I dont need fish and wildlife coming after me for having eagle feathers. i dont have friends that would even have the real thing and definately wouldnt part with them even if they did so my only option is to buy hand painted ones. I dont think I have the ability to paint my own. (I am looking a little pale for it)
I did a dance demonstration today FYI.
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I appreciate your problem. buy the best you can get then. I see you are of Cherokee desent. Those folks used turkey a lot. One of the best non-eagle fans I ever saw was a wild turkey tail,set flat. They used only half a tail, (thats 12 in a turkey) every other feather mostly the thinner outer sides and one center. It was long and elegant, not too wide and the top flared a bit because of the shape of the untrimmed tail. good luck
Sorry, I forget many folks have to worry about fish and game.My bark is worse than my bite
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my fan has 10 large turkey wing feathers with the tops cut flat on one side of the quill (to shorten the feathers back towards the base from the center) it has a perfect curve to it so that I can do the figure 8 twirl (thats what I call it)the feathers are stacked evenly and smaller turkey feathers are at the bottom of the fron and back as to fill in gaps. it has a plywood handle covered in brown leather with 5 inch fringe and a beaded rossett. between the handle and the feathers is a 2in. wide strip of brown rabbit fur
it was made by 10-bears Regailia by Charles Layhay and he dose quality work
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I would have to agree with all the others that have spoken before me. If you can't legally own feathers, find the very best hand paints money can buy.
NocBay, crazycrow, feather source all have handpaints. I think most of them run about $5 a piece.The things you are doing today are the traditions of twenty-five years from now.
-Daryl Baldwin: Miami
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hey,
Ok, what do you suggest for roach feathers? I am thinking about using two turkey tail feathers because I seen them in a dream that I had last night. All comments are greatly appreciated.
thanks,
Mike Silent Warrior-
Channel: Northern Traditional Dancing
01-17-2005, 02:00 PM -
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I have been wondering, in everybodys opinion, what is the amount of feathers needed to make a good full set I mean everything from roach to mocs. I have alot of turkeys where I live and just wanted to get an idea of how many wings I would need. Personally I dont like the tails and I can live without...
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Channel: Northern Traditional Dancing
11-07-2004, 11:43 PM -
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by kyflutedancrI'm constructing a new bustle and I'm having a really hard time finding any good feathers for it. I havent earned the right to use Eagle or hawk feathers, and all the turkey feathers I can find are only the common barred ones. Does anyone know of anywhere that I can find some good alternatives to the...
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Channel: Northern Traditional Dancing
03-21-2007, 09:01 PM -
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by blacktailare these still actually feathers tied in the hair, or have they evolved to be attached to the roach base somehow? if it's to the actual base, they must be detachable for storage.
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Channel: General Crafts
03-20-2012, 06:29 PM -
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by Moosa09Hey, I'm a fancy shawl dancer who has been dancing for about 5 years. I don't dance with feathers, not by choice. People have told me to buy feathers from a store or to get them from a wild life preservation. I strongly believe that people should wear feathers that are A: given to them or B: have earned...
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