Wat about the top trot dancers out there??

[Native_Sooner]

Ok, we alwayz talkin about the top dancers, but wat if theres a tie......how do they sumtimes break it......TROT DANCE. So who r your top trot dancers out there in PW country??

[wa-zha-zhe]

While growing up and dancing around here, we mimick the way a horse trot's. Then as I started getting older and started singing, watching dancers go around I started to notice the really good feeling that trot songs bring out in everyone. For dancers and everyone watching. And, I know everyones explanation is different. To me they are all good. I always liked to watch Archie Mason Jr. Trot.

[wa-zha-zhe]

Before I'm corrected for my post. I need to apoligize for answering so indirectly. After reading the question I posted my "thoughts" on trot dancing. Instead of answering "who r your top trot dancers out there in PW country??"
At pow-wows I like to watch them all trot.

[travelingmocs]

To start off the trot songs, talk about wounded warriors who come back from war. I have seen many people dance them, and it would be hard to say who are the best trot dancers are. But I would have to say the best I have seen have come from White Eagle, in Oklahoma.

[wa-zha-zhe]

The trot songs (Ponca) that I am familiar with, doesn't say anything about wounded soldiers coming back from war. But, yes one of the best dancers that really knew how to trot was the late Abe Conklin. I watched him trot in a contest at Stroud Pow-wow one year and come to think about it, ironically enough, it was to break a tie. When he danced he troted like a horse but, he kept whipping his-self like he was riding a horse. It was really something to see. He was one of the "elite" to ever grace any pow-wow circle, as we all know.

[travelingmocs]

As the years go by and the more time I spend on this board the less I argue with people. But Wa-zah-zhe I have to disagree with you. If you study Trot songs and there translations, the songs are talking about warriors who come back from war wounded. Now there are whats called Tip Toe songs that have no lanuage in them. As far as the word "Trot" I am not sure where that comes from. I have done homework on those songs. Have a great day, and if you would like to PM feel free....


TMS

[wa-zha-zhe]

[QUOTE=travelingmocs]As the years go by and the more time I spend on this board the less I argue with people. But Wa-zah-zhe I have to disagree with you. If you study Trot songs and there translations, the songs are talking about warriors who come back from war wounded. Now there are whats called Tip Toe songs that have no lanuage in them. As far as the word "Trot" I am not sure where that comes from. I have done homework on those songs. Have a great day, and if you would like to PM feel free....

travelingmocs, I took your advice and I pulled out my translation tape on Ponca Trot Songs and studied them, or listened to them once again. The first song says, "Today, I am a man" or "Today, I am the one". The second song says, "A man had died, passed away and that his name lives on prominently." In this song it calls a man's name, HAn-PA SHIn-GA.(Little Elk) The third song says, "It made him angry to know that there was a man of another tribe who was brave enough to come to him and tell him to go out and be a brave man." "He has a felling that he is going to go out and seek this man out and kill him and he doesn't want God to hold him accountable for taking the life of another man. On the part about NO-STA-PEH (tip-toe in the Ponca language) is a slower tempo and of course keep time with the drum. tms, I'm not one to argue either. I previously stated that everyone has their own interpertation of trot songs. None of the songs that I have access too, say anything about warriors limping back from war.

[records_all_drumz]

Good gosh whipping like he is on a horse....

[wa-zha-zhe]

Good gosh whipping like he is on a horse....

Yeah, I know. Abe was an awesome dancer. Especially when it came to trotting. He was really someone to watch.

[ANGELO]

heck yeah

not only trots but abe c's dance style was awsome. lol actually he would be contemp today cuz he was smooth. those dancers that cant dance as good as him would call him contemp. lol and there are others who danced real smooth that would get the contemp charge. lol but if you ask me who is my favo troter today then it would be terry tsotigh. he got a good trot.

[1badazzndn]

Man i wish i got to see that guy Abe Conklin dance...I have to go with a couple of old-schoolers who ive seen that I love watchin for the trot dance- Larry McCurtain, and Jamie Nobles. Those 2 are pretty dern smooth!!!

[ANGELO]

yep

heck ya Larry Mcurtain iz a bad azz dancer. he has a smooth style. those guyz i like to watch dance. heck those older guyz have moves with their dancin, and it makes them contemp by the standards these younger guyz are puttin out cuz they cant beat them no other way. so watch those older dancers they have style.