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Can you identify these people?
Can you identify the names of those in the following photos?
Osage - 1895
Ponca ? - 1905
Osage - 1910
Osage - 1895
Ponca ? - 1905
Osage - 1910
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"Be good, be kind, help each other."
"Respect the ground, respect the drum, respect each other."
--Abe Conklin, Ponca/Osage (1926-1995) -
The guy in the 2nd picture looks like he has the same type of outfit as the guy on the left in the first picture. Maybe he is Osage too.The only time its too late to start dancing is when you're dead. -
Super,Originally posted by superndngyrl View Post
The guy on the right looks like your husband 20 years ago.
*LPowwows will continue to evolve in many directions. It is inevitable.Comment
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no he doesn't. my husband 20 years ago had a mustache.
What are you saying? That all indians look alike!
hahaThe only time its too late to start dancing is when you're dead.Comment
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Originally posted by superndngyrl View Post
super,
Yup That's exactly what I'm sayin' .... and they're all good lookin' too!Powwows will continue to evolve in many directions. It is inevitable.Comment
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The 2nd guy, 1905, looks like he has the same vest and maybe, otter, as the Osage dancer in this photo postcard:
http://home.flash.net/~blondie6/2182.jpgComment
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1905
Osage - 1910
Last edited by Historian; 01-30-2009, 08:11 AM.
"Be good, be kind, help each other."
"Respect the ground, respect the drum, respect each other."
--Abe Conklin, Ponca/Osage (1926-1995)Comment
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Originally posted by Gledanh Zhinga View Post
Gledanh,
Do you think there might be a direct correlation between modern beaded harnesses and otter pelts worn like harnesses on Man Dancers?Powwows will continue to evolve in many directions. It is inevitable.Comment
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WhoMe,
I don't know about that possible correlation. The otters, often with mirrors were also worn up north, but to my knowledge, not hanging down full length, as the southern style. In Oklahoma, the older guys with whom I started fancy dancing, all called the harnesses "galluses," which is an old fashioned word for suspenders. They were called galluses even though they didn't really hold anything up.Comment
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Galluses
The Ho-Chunks still wear those otter harnesses with mirrors, they are snazzy, but with that and a turban and dragger it would be just too much otter for me.
Also there are some nice pics of Ho-Chunk fellas from the early 1900's with the harnesses on and ribbonwork/beaded bandoliers- real fancy like.Comment
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Jim Swallow, William Massey, Tom Thunder, George Eagle and Ben Thundercloud - HoChunk - 1881Originally posted by legalstraight View Post
Last edited by Historian; 01-30-2009, 09:48 AM.
"Be good, be kind, help each other."
"Respect the ground, respect the drum, respect each other."
--Abe Conklin, Ponca/Osage (1926-1995)Comment
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"Be good, be kind, help each other."
"Respect the ground, respect the drum, respect each other."
--Abe Conklin, Ponca/Osage (1926-1995)Comment
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In interesting photo showing taffata ribbon instead of otter hide.Originally posted by WhoMe View Post
Henry Springer and John Grant - Omaha - 1898
"Be good, be kind, help each other."
"Respect the ground, respect the drum, respect each other."
--Abe Conklin, Ponca/Osage (1926-1995)Comment
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I acquired a Pawnee harness/belt, fancy dance set dating from WW II. It's base material was cotton cloth with a straight ribbon binding. The galluses did not hang below the belt; they were sewn to the top of the belt making it all one unit. Lots of the decoration was "spoked wheel conchos" applied with sequins and beads.Comment
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what is that in his left hand it looks like a mirror board just minus the board and mounted with a long strip of bead work is there a specialOriginally posted by Historian View Post1905
Osage - 1910
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