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  • 49 vs. Round Dance songs

    Due to the recent controversy surrounding the 49 Contest at Schmitzun, I thought I would run this past the readership.
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    Round dance songs (especially those with words) are sung at most 49's.

    However there IS a difference between 49 songs with English words vs. round dance songs with English words.

    If you are in a 49 contest, knowledgable judges WILL know the difference and score a drum accordingly. (ie "Black Jack Daisy" is a 49 song, "Party Time" is a round dance . . . and so on.,). There are so many 49 songs that you can literally sing a different song all night and not have to repeat the same song.

    In 49 country, songs are sung in sets. Sometimes two to three drums will sing at the same time in different areas of the 49. Again in 49 country, 49 songs are not mixed in the set with round dance songs - normally. However, younger singers are beginning to mix these two types of songs, due to their inexperience of not knowing the difference or not knowing a lot of 49 songs.

    Round dance songs with English words are normally reserved for the last set in a 49 . . . 'bout when the sun is coming up.

    Any comment?
    Powwows will continue to evolve in many directions. It is inevitable.

  • #2
    The "49 King" has spoken.
    ~KB~

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Kool Breeze
      The "49 King" has spoken.
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      KB (aka. Big Sexy),

      I ain't no 49 King.

      I just like to sing in the dark.

      I also like singing at 49's with SBZ, NdnTaco and lclbcook and. . .




      hundreds of purdy Indian girls when the moon is full!
      Powwows will continue to evolve in many directions. It is inevitable.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by WhoMe
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        hundreds of purdy Indian girls when the moon is full!
        I know that's right.

        Not a 49 King huh? That title must have been bestowed upon you by someone else with a few extra powwow points then.
        ~KB~

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        • #5
          49 songs are 49 songs and round dance songs are round dance songs. Knowledgeable singers know the difference. I don’t think age has anything to do with it. I sing with young guys all the time that definitely know the difference. If you don’t know the difference, I would suggest asking someone that knows or you may find yourself victim to the same controversy.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by WhoMe
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            KB (aka. Big Sexy),

            I ain't no 49 King.

            I just like to sing in the dark.

            I also like singing at 49's with SBZ, NdnTaco and lclbcook and. . .




            hundreds of purdy Indian girls when the moon is full!

            I know....that title goes to Millard Clark. aye!!!

            LOL!
            "This next song goes out to some girls in dot com. They don't know who they are, but, it doesn't really matter anyway."




            "When the God's wish to punish us, they grant our prayers."

            O. Wilde

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Mr Bo Jangles
              I know....that title goes to Millard Clark. aye!!!

              LOL!

              lmao!
              Oh yeah, I used to know Quentin...He's a real...He's a real Jerky

              ~Flat Beat~

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              • #8
                Oh Schemitz...what a wonder deal that happened..no comment from me...But yea~49 is 49 and round dance songs are round dance songs...if you dont know you best learn. As many threads there have been on southern singing and 49ing, you people should already know by now...
                :indian2: MIRROR MIRROR ON THE WALL, JEAN CLAUDE VAN DAMME IM FINE:muscles:

                " say what I feel, I say what I think, I say what you do not like, Yet for some reason what I say is somewhat correct" Chief Big Beef 1999

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                • #9
                  who was singing round dance at the 49 contest???
                  did they get disquilfied?
                  if not they should have

                  I told my babe

                  and when the dance is over sweetheart will sing and drink all night and then will dance the fourty nine...!

                  then singers sung that round dance song

                  NDN girls NDN girls NDN girls NDN girls oh how I love those NDN girls!!

                  I was looking the NDN girls and my old lady got mad, so I told her don't get it twisted cause................

                  everytyme I turn around you always got your Kawdayz down.... you got dam got good and well that I love you!

                  she told me...

                  she said she was threw with me, thats why I started drinking to drowned out all my sarrows with in this can of bud....

                  then my NDN girl, whos my friend said to me...........

                  My sweetheart don't love me anymore because I drink wiskey
                  I don't care cause I got nother one!

                  so I told her

                  to hell with your old man come up and see me some tyme!
                  Last edited by TacO5000; 09-08-2004, 07:30 PM.
                  Dayum I make some keen DrumSticks!!!!!!sigpic

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by NDNTacO49
                    everytyme I turn around you always got your Kawdayz down.... you got dam got good and well that I love you!
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                    NDNTaco:

                    Too FUNNNNNY!

                    Mind if I quote you at the next big 49?



                    Mr. Bo J:

                    Millards good, but I consider Joe Fish Dupoint and Larry Cozad the (co-) 49 Kings! When they 49, they bring their crews with them.


                    Then . . . Itssssalll GOOD!

                    eeeeee HAW (*warhoops)
                    Powwows will continue to evolve in many directions. It is inevitable.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by WhoMe
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                      Mr. Bo J:

                      Millards good, but I consider Joe Fish Dupoint and Larry Cozad the (co-) 49 Kings! When they 49, they bring their crews with them.


                      Then . . . Itssssalll GOOD!

                      eeeeee HAW (*warhoops)
                      I have to agree with you whome Mr. Bo J just don't know....... Millards a one man crew...... Any Kiowas will do...... I was having a 49 with Warren Queton a.k.a. grandpa.... man that dude could sing 49 by him self all night long I was just second that guy! and my Uncle Luther Haymond..... you and him get down whome!

                      Quote on whome, quote on!!
                      Dayum I make some keen DrumSticks!!!!!!sigpic

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                      • #12
                        I agree Joe Fish Dupoint and Larry Cozad make it live at a nine. Millard brings a good chorus crowd with him.

                        Back in the day I used to 9 around Pawnee with Auk-ah-boo, Frank Adson, Steve Knife Chief, even some fellas from Yellowhammer both the Jim's. then there was a Peewee, dang they use to get it back then.

                        Last time I went to a 9 not too many followed the format WHOME put out there straight 49 songs, 49 word songs, round dances with words.

                        I usta wonder about the one round dance song that is used for a Kiowa War Mothers or something. Man them younger fellas back then usta sing it at 49's, kinda of odd.

                        Just my 2 cents.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by records_all_drumz
                          Back in the day I used to 9 around Pawnee with Auk-ah-boo, Frank Adson, Steve Knife Chief . . .
                          Last time I went to a 9 not too many followed the format WHOME put out there straight 49 songs, 49 word songs, round dances with words.
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                          records:

                          Steve KChief and Auk still 49 at "the south roads!"

                          I agree, times are changing for the worse at '9s. The big ones like Indian Hills, Indian Exposition, IICOT and even Stroud are loosing steam.

                          Seems like there are a bunch of kids 18 and under anymore "representing."
                          Powwows will continue to evolve in many directions. It is inevitable.

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                          • #14
                            Im South Roads Band...Ahhh 49ing...now I needa beer
                            :indian2: MIRROR MIRROR ON THE WALL, JEAN CLAUDE VAN DAMME IM FINE:muscles:

                            " say what I feel, I say what I think, I say what you do not like, Yet for some reason what I say is somewhat correct" Chief Big Beef 1999

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                            • #15
                              if the judges knew what they were doing, it would not have been a question as to which drum sang the right songs, it should have not even been a issue. as for the conduct of the drums, it broke several peoples heart as to the way they were conducting themselves, i will not mention which drums but they should have been disquilified for unsportmanship conduct. if this were done it would have made a lot of people behave themselves and be more respectful.

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