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    What is with these "hobbiest" powwow singers? Ive been powwowing around this area...no comment...but what do YALL think? should color matter? What if these "non-natives" can really jam....I know of a few non native who can flat out jam...but what if they just cant sing...What do yall think?
    :indian2: MIRROR MIRROR ON THE WALL, JEAN CLAUDE VAN DAMME IM FINE:muscles:

    " say what I feel, I say what I think, I say what you do not like, Yet for some reason what I say is somewhat correct" Chief Big Beef 1999

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    Wouldn't that decision be handled by the head singer? If some wanabe singer shows up at the drum and it is discovered that he doesn't know what he is doing or can't sing, the head singer should have his chair removed and tell him that the drum is closed. Most non-indian singers that can "jam" are already known to the singing community. It shouldn't be too hard to screen out the ones that don't belong there. Just my 2 cents worth.

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    • #3
      What about the ndn guy who comes out to the drum and doesn't know any songs ??


      "No Wannabes / No Crybabies"

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      • #4
        That is still the head singer's call. Hopefully, he can distinquish between the one with the calling and the gift and needing to learn, from the one who is out there for himself or for personal gain.

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        • #5
          I know that were suppose to be at the center drum and what not, but sometimes theres someone who just dont have that talent..I believe if you dont have talent or the gift to sing you never will...somethings can not be taught and singing is one of them, Especially when they can not stay in beat..arrrr...OK~
          BUT~What about these drum groups that are all white boys...I was at a powwow and these guys were whiter than milk and they were tyring to sing gourd dance...I just shook my head....What about those guys?
          :indian2: MIRROR MIRROR ON THE WALL, JEAN CLAUDE VAN DAMME IM FINE:muscles:

          " say what I feel, I say what I think, I say what you do not like, Yet for some reason what I say is somewhat correct" Chief Big Beef 1999

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          • #6
            go help them out .................................AYE!
            john arkeketa

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            • #7
              I know that your not suppose to make fun of people at the drum,but Ive seen some horrific singing....maybe its just me,,,but I know its not. Any other comments..questions?
              :indian2: MIRROR MIRROR ON THE WALL, JEAN CLAUDE VAN DAMME IM FINE:muscles:

              " say what I feel, I say what I think, I say what you do not like, Yet for some reason what I say is somewhat correct" Chief Big Beef 1999

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              • #8
                You know if these guys are that bad, they will quit. Folks will not ask them to sing for their function, and if they are a bunch of young guys, Life will catch up with them and they will scatter. Time will take care of the issue one way or another. Let these white guys sing for the white guys. Like what was said before, help em out. Maybe they will get better or even good and your help caused it.

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                • #9
                  I think, in my own opinion that if a non-native who knows the ways of the natives and knows all the songs and sings them right, should have a chance to sing and maybe earn some respect. Theres this one guy by the name of DREW, in Oklahoma that sings with various drum groups and sings out in the middle a lot. Hes a good singer. He earned his way to sit down with various people. If someone can do that than I guess its all good.
                  Live life one day at a time. Things happen for a reason.

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                  • #10
                    Drew

                    He has studied for a long time. He has learned who, what, when, etc. I'm sure he is enjoying it out there.

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                    • #11
                      Drew is that his name and I think I know who ya'll mean, anyway he might be the exception. But I am against non-natives singing. I won't go to no hobby fest either. Too many good NDN places to seek out.

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                      • #12
                        Tigger... you said Drew is a really good singer FOR A NON NATIVE??? Drew Armstrong is a really good singer PERIOD. If I had to name a Native singer with skills comparable to Drew's, I would have to say Jimmy Kimble. Most guys don't even hold a candle to this guy.
                        ~KB~

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Kool Breeze
                          Tigger... you said Drew is a really good singer FOR A NON NATIVE??? Drew Armstrong is a really good singer PERIOD. If I had to name a Native singer with skills comparable to Drew's, I would have to say Jimmy Kimble. Most guys don't even hold a candle to this guy.
                          Y'all goin TOO d**n far now !!!!!!

                          Besides....Drew needs a haircut !
                          "No Wannabes / No Crybabies"

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                          • #14
                            LMAOROTF . . .

                            then got up only to fall down again!!!

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                              "No Wannabes / No Crybabies"

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