Views of NDN Women/Men with non NDN's

[NezRezWmNw]

Growing up on the Rez and moving to a large city, it is possible for our Ndn women or men, to date or marry someone from another race. Do you believe most of our Ndn blood is slowing dissolving into the many mixtures of the rest of this country, and if not, is then your own TRIBE dissolving...What are most concern's of our up coming future and percentages in the enrollment books?

[txsndn7]

Osiyo,
I think your correct in saying that Native blood is getting thinner in the aspect of intermarriage. In that same since its good that everyone has a little "red" in them. I have met so many "black" people that know they are part Native and they are just as proud as the next Ndn. Is it good or bad- I don't know.
Great topic of conversation.
Wado

[Mato Winyan]

Osiyo,
I think your correct in saying that Native blood is getting thinner in the aspect of intermarriage. In that same since its good that everyone has a little "red" in them. I have met so many "black" people that know they are part Native and they are just as proud as the next Ndn. Is it good or bad- I don't know.
Great topic of conversation.
Wado

What the heck are you talking about? Why did you feel the need to use " " when refering to black people, and it is good that everyone has a little "red" in them?

I realize that you two are pretty new and don't know that this has been discussed different times. It usually ends up in a pissing contest with natives saying it's all bad....... whites saying it's good....... mixed leaning one way then the other. Me.... I say teach your children well. Teach them their culture and traditions..... make them feel good about who they are and what their heritage is. ( no i'm not just talking about native kids)

One thing I have noticed over the years is one common factor........ needing to belong. You make em feel good about who they are and where they come from then they can feel secure within themselves. And they will be with a person because of what they are.....not who they are.

So yeah....may get pretty heated .... But hey..... who knows.... maybe this time will be different.

And by the way........... where IS Waldo?

[urbandn]

I say teach your children well. Teach them their culture and traditions..... make them feel good about who they are and what their heritage is. ( no i'm not just talking about native kids)

One thing I have noticed over the years is one common factor........ needing to belong. You make em feel good about who they are and where they come from then they can feel secure within themselves. And they will be with a person because of what they are.....not who they are.

I think that all about sums it up. If you are secure with who you are there is no need to go looking elsewhere for your identity, no matter what culture you came from.

[Plenty Fox]

I think that all about sums it up. If you are secure with who you are there is no need to go looking elsewhere for your identity, no matter what culture you came from.

Well , once again I typed in a response, hit submit and it disappeard. This is happening TOO often on this site, Paul.

So, I repeat...
Are you saying that NDNS who choose non-NDN mates are insecure in who they are? Are you saying that non-NDNs who choose NDN mates are insecure in who they are?

Generalities like this are dangerous; not to mention that they cannot be substantiated and are strictly the personal opinion/bias of the person who makes the statement.

[Singing Otter]

Osiyo,
I think your correct in saying that Native blood is getting thinner in the aspect of intermarriage. In that same since its good that everyone has a little "red" in them. I have met so many "black" people that know they are part Native and they are just as proud as the next Ndn. Is it good or bad- I don't know.
Great topic of conversation.
Wado

"black"? Wow. That's rich. I'd be hard-pressed to say something nice right now.... so I won't. Your post makes you seemingly ignorant and/or bigoted. Whenever I encounter this type of attitude it's usually someone white that has just discovered their Indianism.

Sincerely,
A "black (oh my GOD why didn't somebody tell me!!!????) with red in her"

BTW, I so-sign on Mato's and Urbandn's statements.

[txsndn7]

What the heck are you talking about? Why did you feel the need to use " " when refering to black people, and it is good that everyone has a little "red" in them?

I realize that you two are pretty new and don't know that this has been discussed different times. It usually ends up in a pissing contest with natives saying it's all bad....... whites saying it's good....... mixed leaning one way then the other. Me.... I say teach your children well. Teach them their culture and traditions..... make them feel good about who they are and what their heritage is. ( no i'm not just talking about native kids)

One thing I have noticed over the years is one common factor........ needing to belong. You make em feel good about who they are and where they come from then they can feel secure within themselves. And they will be with a person because of what they are.....not who they are.

So yeah....may get pretty heated .... But hey..... who knows.... maybe this time will be different.

And by the way........... where IS Waldo?

I used parenthesis because i was discussing color-which i dont normally do. It is my prerogative how i write and what i post about. It does not matter what has been discussed in the past only whats on the table for discussion now.
I agree with you on children being secure within themselves and their heritage.
And, i enjoy a good "heated" discussion, its good for the brain-makes you think.

And by the way, I left waldo back in the 90's.

[txsndn7]

"black"? Wow. That's rich. I'd be hard-pressed to say something nice right now.... so I won't. Your post makes you seemingly ignorant and/or bigoted. Whenever I encounter this type of attitude it's usually someone white that has just discovered their Indianism.

Sincerely,
A "black (oh my GOD why didn't somebody tell me!!!????) with red in her"

BTW, I so-sign on Mato's and Urbandn's statements.

Singing Otter, i am NOT ignorant or bigoted, nor am i afraid to speak. I did NOT just discover my "Indianism"-your word. and by all means-not White okay.
I apologize if my words have angered you or anyone else for that matter. We can discuss issues or we can bury our heads in the sand......

Wado

[Singing Otter]

Singing Otter, i am NOT ignorant or bigoted, nor am i afraid to speak. I did NOT just discover my "Indianism"-your word. and by all means-not White okay.
I apologize if my words have angered you or anyone else for that matter. We can discuss issues or we can bury our heads in the sand......

Wado

I also speak my mind, however the difference is I was taught to think prior to opening my mouth.

[txsndn7]

I also speak my mind, however the difference is I was taught to think prior to opening my mouth.

tohiysdv eladi, tla esga-igvnehi asquadvhi. aquadanila nvwadalehi. wado

[urbandn]

Are you saying that NDNS who choose non-NDN mates are insecure in who they are? Are you saying that non-NDNs who choose NDN mates are insecure in who they are?

Generalities like this are dangerous; not to mention that they cannot be substantiated and are strictly the personal opinion/bias of the person who makes the statement.

No PlentyFox, I apologize because I really did not make myself clear. I think I kind of got off on my own topic there for a second.
What I was trying to say was that if our children are taught who they are and where they come from their entire life they will always be secure in that no matter what road they take or where life may lead them.
I think there are too many people who are without any traditional upbringing, and that too must be true in other cultures.
Mato Winyan's statement to teach your children & to do it well, just made me think that if we are dedicated to doing this with our children and our children's children and on and on, then no matter what takes place, these children will always know from where they came and who they are. That in itself should give them more self security and self esteem.
Make sense?

[Plenty Fox]

No PlentyFox, I apologize because I really did not make myself clear. I think I kind of got off on my own topic there for a second.
What I was trying to say was that if our children are taught who they are and where they come from their entire life they will always be secure in that no matter what road they take or where life may lead them.
I think there are too many people who are without any traditional upbringing, and that too must be true in other cultures.
Mato Winyan's statement to teach your children & to do it well, just made me think that if we are dedicated to doing this with our children and our children's children and on and on, then no matter what takes place, these children will always know from where they came and who they are. That in itself should give them more self security and self esteem.
Make sense?

[Mato Winyan]

It is my prerogative how i write and what i post about.

Yeah........ and your point is?

And by the way, I left waldo back in the 90's.

Hey...... your the one that brought him up.

[trudanny]

both of my parents are from the same tribe. I am proud to be who I am.

Two of my mother's little sisters married white men. we accepted them... one of the couples split up. The other has been married for about 30 years. I am genuinely happy to see my aunt and uncle whenever they visit. I don't judge him based on his race. He loves my aunt, and she loves him.

I think everyone deserves to be happy. If they make each other happy... more power to them!

[Singing Otter]

tohiysdv eladi, tla esga-igvnehi asquadvhi. aquadanila nvwadalehi. wado

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