out of curiousity... when your judging a category...how do most of you pick 1st,2nd,3rd...and so on.... what i'm triing to say is... do you judge dancers by there ability to dance real good or just because your good friends with them or because of who they are..... the reason i'm asking is there are time when judges go for dancer that are off beat or over step.. or they start off on beat but through the song they get off beat real bad not because of the drum ..or they are out dance but other good dancers....yet they still place real high or beat out other good dancers. you know there are alot of real good dancer out there but not quite big name enough. just wonder what everybody's opinion about this matter..
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Everyone is going to say "by the way they dance"
Except the Super honest. LOLLast edited by kiyaanii mom; 03-03-2006, 05:00 PM.
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which brings to mind another thing about judging. I judged a dance a year ago and it was all good until we got to the prize money. When it was time to collect the dancers came up in street clothes, which bummed me out, cause I couldn't tell who I voted for LMAO....
is this normal now days???Last edited by kiowakat; 03-03-2006, 05:21 PM.
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I pick whoever is willing to offer me the best deal. AYE!!!!
What I will always deduct points for is if somebody is up there chewing gum or they are just trying to hard to look cool. If you powwow dance then you should be proud of the dance itself rather than the image you are trying to convey. Wearing gangster thug life junk. Same with fancy shawl dancers who show their belly piercings. I always consider dancing but also you have to look how respectful the person is when they are out there.
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I judge by the way they dance... WHEN I judge lol.. I've only judged once.
But some people, can be very good dancers, and at a smaller powwow, won't dance as good as they can, but some people pick them anyways because they 'already know how they dance' so... yeah.
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Originally posted by kiyaanii momEveryone is going to say "by the way they dance"
Except the Super honest. LOL
laterz"When the forest weeps, the Anishinabe who listens will look back at the years. In each generation of Ojibway there will be a person who will hear the si-si-gwa-d, who will listen and remember and pass it on to the children."
"Night Flying Woman"
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Originally posted by badmanincI pick whoever is willing to offer me the best deal. AYE!!!!
What I will always deduct points for is if somebody is up there chewing gum or they are just trying to hard to look cool. If you powwow dance then you should be proud of the dance itself rather than the image you are trying to convey. Wearing gangster thug life junk. Same with fancy shawl dancers who show their belly piercings. I always consider dancing but also you have to look how respectful the person is when they are out there.
"When the forest weeps, the Anishinabe who listens will look back at the years. In each generation of Ojibway there will be a person who will hear the si-si-gwa-d, who will listen and remember and pass it on to the children."
"Night Flying Woman"
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First and foremost......DO THEY DANCE IN BEAT!!!!!!!! If not, they I do not pick them.
Next, dance ability, and if there are two dancers who are two close to call, then I wait to see who has the better endurance, if they are the same then I check out their outfits and go with the better put together outfit. But if one blatantly over or understeps, drops something off their outfits it helps my decision making process.
Also, if someone comes running onto the floor while the dance contest is already going, I don't care how good they dance or who they are, I don't consider them.It is so sad that a family can torn apart by something as simple as a wild pack of dogs.
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I admit I will pick some of my friends, but I can't help it if they are good but I never pick by big names, usually I'm more critical of them, As a spectator I watch who dances intertribals and notice who only makes grand entry and walks around. I go to alot of pow-wow's in MN, SD, ND, WISC and MT, don't go to Canada much anymore, but I will be fair I don't give my friends an automatic first either, but I keep my eyes open for the dancers with great ability regardless of their outfits, especially the little kids, I hate it when so and so go running out there to fix something on their little ones outfits just so everyone will know that he/she is a big name's kid. Then it carrys to jr, teens etc. Also I notices people all of a sudden say Hi ! to you after you are a judge. I was a judge in Prairie Island one summer, and did I have old friends shaking my hand, I thought they forgot who I was, because I used to dance jingle in the 70's and 80's and used to win at bigger pow-wows when they started having jingle dress catergories, I met alot of people and made many dresses for some of the old style champs. But any who, it usually comes down to who you are and who you know....for reals.
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I give high scores to the dancer who makes an effort to give me a good show! (this does not count in the traditional categories as I look for someone who 'really does' dance traditional!)
If you watch a lot of champions (in fancy, grass, shawl), they dance around the outside of the other dancers. They go from judge to judge and "turn it on" in front of each individual judge or group of judges. (It's part of the game for those of you who are new).
I'm CERTAINLY NOT going to give a good score to someone who dances on the far side of the arena in one area (again I am not talking about traditional dancers).Powwows will continue to evolve in many directions. It is inevitable.
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