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Originally posted by Wojapi4Me
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Well, I wasn't there either, but I'm going to add my two cents 
I happen to agree wholeheartedly with superndngyrl...if people won and are owed money, it's not greedy or childish for them to try to collect. If you were shorted hours on your paycheck, you'd sure complain to the HR department or whoever to get that straightened out wouldn't you? If the IRS shorted you, you'd certainly call them. So, why can't pow wow people do the same?
I happen to agree wholeheartedly with superndngyrl...if people won and are owed money, it's not greedy or childish for them to try to collect. If you were shorted hours on your paycheck, you'd sure complain to the HR department or whoever to get that straightened out wouldn't you? If the IRS shorted you, you'd certainly call them. So, why can't pow wow people do the same?
LMAO. 
. INSTEAD OF MS. ATTITUDE.
. Yeah know there are some good powwows and some bad powwows. There are powwows who pay and powwows that don't. There are committee's who stand by their word and there are those who don't. Having known some of these Cali powwows and who/what runs them, not all are alike. Now, I can say, having been on the Southern Cali Powwow Circuit Council from the 1st time it was organized, yes, I was one of the members back in 2000 or was it 1999. Anyhow, after being at many meetings with ALL the S. Cali Casino's, I can say, first hand, that alot of these committee's, Casino's, etc had no first hand knowledge of how to run powwows or even what they were about. I am not going to name names but some of the dancers, etc helped collaborate some of the powwows today and helped the tribes make them what they are. Without this outside help or knowledge, some of these Casino powwows would not have made it. I even remember Morongo having very little dancers and only maybe 10 drums show up, at most. Now the thing I remember most that was difficult was having all these committee's with so many different types of views or misunderstanding of how these powwows should be run. I am reminding you all that most of these tribes are mostly familiar with stick games and birdsinging, not powwows, especially big time powwows. Yes, Sycuan and Pechanga have been around a while, yet we ask, why are they continuing to be the same or have the same problems. As a business entrepeneur primarily dealing with tribes and tribal councils, it has come to a point that its really hard to train old dogs with new tricks. Not saying they are dogs but some of these people only want to go with what is comfortable or only what they know. It's hard for these councils to accept change or invest in things they don't know about. So I have seen it first hand, its hard for some of these tribes to change what they may think is best even though it may not be. Trust is the key issue here. So yes, we can say, the Rumley crew or hiring so and so may be the best options. But when it comes down to it, getting the committee or even the council to change an 'old habit' is going to be the key. Do you know how long it took Morongo to finally get a hotel on their property?? I remember when it was just an idea. I am glad to see powwows like San Manuel make it, thanks to a great committee and people like Tommy staying with it for 9 years now. At least the committee at Sycuan is dealing with their issue now, even if its a week later. From what it looks like, they're paying out twice, which is much better than having to just say 'oh well, live with it'. I have seen much worse when the committee's don't even payout and someone stole the prize money or hearing of dancers waiting days for their IOU's that never get paid out. I even forked out over 4000.00 in airline tickets to a committee for a host drum and didn't get paid for it until a year or two later. So, in all, yes its bad the tabulations got screwed up, the committee admitted it, they are fixing it, let's just move on to the next powwow. Personally, yeah, I would like to go back to Sycuan one day, but its only because we like to dance. If one of places, great, if we don't, oh well, at least we had fun dancing. Isn't that what powwows are suppose to be about? Anyhow, just remember maybe some of these Casino Powwows may never change, its up to the committee or the councils. Just know that if you go, keep an open mind, have fun dancing/singing, and just enjoy yourself.
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