Do you think hobbs should NOT be authentic?

[trob226]

If you are OK with Boy Scouts and hobbyists powwowing, do you think they ought to try to be authentic with their outfits and dancing, or do you think they should try to keep themselves distinct? I don't mean Scouts should dance in their uniforms or hobbs in 3-piece suits (though that would be interesting), but I can see how people could see it either way, that they should try to be accurate or that they should not try to be exact since they're not tribal members. What do you think?

[superndngyrl]

on the one hand, when hobbyists come out looking all weird with ducks on their heads and some wierd bobcat fur strapped to their backside, it just makes me want to cover my eyes.

But then when they come out and blend in wearing my tribal designs its like huh? Especially when its nicer than what I got. I get all envious. ayyeee

But I guess I honestly think they should put the time in creating something really nice and that they can be proud of in the arena. It would be better if hobbyists find a real hobby instead of playing indian cuz its offensive but if you're gonna do it then do it right. This doesn't mean i'm giving my permission... just my two cents. ;)

I don't want to hear of any hobbyists going around saying well superndngyrl said... aye

[MayChe]

on the one hand, when hobbyists come out looking all weird with ducks on their heads and some wierd bobcat fur strapped to their backside, it just makes me want to cover my eyes.

But then when they come out and blend in wearing my tribal designs its like huh? Especially when its nicer than what I got. I get all envious. ayyeee

But I guess I honestly think they should put the time in creating something really nice and that they can be proud of in the arena. It would be better if hobbyists find a real hobby instead of playing indian cuz its offensive but if you're gonna do it then do it right. This doesn't mean i'm giving my permission... just my two cents. ;)

I don't want to hear of any hobbyists going around saying well superndngyrl said... aye

I agree. If you're going to do it, do it right and not something you slapped together. Here I know of some hobbyists who've I seen dancing for years and all their regalia is very nice. They carry themselves very well and tell people that they aren't Native but they know the ways and are respected because of that.

[NorthofAda]

I've been to some traditional powwows where there were some hobbyists, and their outfits were downright scary - mixed up, synthetic, nothing I would feel envious of.

I guess I'd like to see hobbyists at least put something together that does look authentic, but not too tribe specific. I know I wouldn't want to wear something of another tribe for fear of offending someone - I'd think they'd be even more offended if a non-NDN did it.

[Eagle Plumes]

Im like this if your going to dance do it rite and dont look like a side show freak. Ive help'd non ndn's look good with out useing a design from any tribe, meaning they get out paper noodle out something thats all their own and go from there. As for the scouts im a proud MaMa of two scouts . They always ask me in a kind way what to do and what not to do so not to offend. My sons friends have came to pow-wow's and were really into everything they saw.

[superndngyrl]

Im like this if your going to dance do it rite and dont look like a side show freak. Ive help'd non ndn's look good with out useing a design from any tribe, meaning they get out paper noodle out something thats all their own and go from there. As for the scouts im a proud MaMa of two scouts . They always ask me in a kind way what to do and what not to do so not to offend. My sons friends have came to pow-wow's and were really into everything they saw.

yea but you're indian so them going to pow-wows and dancing isn't an issue.

[Eagle Plumes]

yea but you're indian so them going to pow-wows and dancing isn't an issue.

True. I like to say they are the best dress'd scouts out there lol. Ok had there always been alot of orange? I log'd in and bam orange. I do like it though very much.

[Eagle Plumes]

I just wanted to ay Thank-you to whom ever left me the green and the kind words. Since there was no name im thanking you this way .lol

[between2worlds]

True. I like to say they are the best dress'd scouts out there lol. Ok had there always been alot of orange? I log'd in and bam orange. I do like it though very much.

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[trob226]

Nope is new within the last hour or so ... the buttons for "quote" and "multi-quote" are new too......

Thanks for all the opinions, people. I appreciate it. And B2W - I just noticed when I'm online I geta red button that tells me I'm invisible! How did I get to be invisible? Do you know?

[buckskin pantyhose]

i guess it should be looked at as flattering that they want to imitate our culture & dances....i agree w/Super...you should always be respectful & do things right.

If you're going to put the time & effort into creating an outfit & learning how to dance, then make it worthy of yourself.

Bright crazy feathers & colorful buckskins will definitely give you the wrong attention....not to mention most natives enjoy putting hobbs in their place when twirling wildly in their skunk fur pouches & snake skin hair ties.

[tallinjun]

Snake Skin Hairties......Man you took my idea. I had everything picked out including the albino Skunk Loin Cloth!!!

Stop raining on my parade Bux!!!


Tallinjun

[Kakeeya]

Snake Skin Hairties......Man you took my idea. I had everything picked out including the albino Skunk Loin Cloth!!!

Stop raining on my parade Bux!!!


Tallinjun

I don't know who you are Tallinjun but I can imagine you saying all of this with your Chappelle accent from your avy..

[between2worlds]

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[ac_miss]

I don't know who you are Tallinjun but I can imagine you saying all of this with your Chappelle accent from your avy..

My thoughts exactly! Crazy!