scrubby looking drummers!

[mrmnxcrew]

I don't know where the values of drum protocol went but the ability to sing or compose songs is not a given. Those gifts have been extended from the Creator so that you can bring good things to the people.

I think the new generation, with the ever growing drum contest, and tribes that traditionally aren't powwow people embracing powwows has really driven new drum groups to emerge. What did not follow was drum protocol. Call me old school or whatever but respect and reverance should be extended the drums, they are not something to mess around with. Singers should be dressed in their best, be it new or old (that's how I was raised). How about just CLEAN and laundered? Shorts, tank style t-shirts, flip flops, should NOT be worn at a drum. I've been asked to judge drum contests and I'll be the first to give you the big Z based on your appearance alone. Slacks, jeans, button down shirts that would be my recommendation.

wow!!...........so your saying you would "z" out a group because theyre wearing shorts?? I've seen a lot of ol' time singers wear shorts..........Royce Kingbird.........even Jonathan Windyboy (if you go on youtube theres a vid of him wearing a "tank-top")........because I've had the privilege of learning from a lot of great singers and they all taught me that as long as you sing from the heart, respect and understand the aspect of the gift of singing, and treat the drum with respect that that's what it was about......not who has the tightest wranglers on. What about singers having to sit in the sun all day in 100 degree weather?? when dancers arent dancing, they're allowed to go find shade and cool off, but if drums are in the contest, they gotta sit there. Believe me, i'm all for looking good at the drum.........maybe our idea of "looking good" is just a lil' different from yours. But I bet my shorts, jersey, shoes, and hat cost as much as your wranglers, button-up, and straw hat!

[Ivanasnagu]

Be careful when you assume something though...You'd be suprised....

Ditto........................

[timmy tiger]

at what again???.....LOL!!!!>..............

Tayoonee - I know where you're talking about......see ya in Denver!!!!!!!!!!

LOL--don't be acting all innocent there. We all know that you are not.lol

[tayoonee]

We'll see 50cal!

[50cal]

at what again???.....LOL!!!!>..............

Tayoonee - I know where you're talking about......see ya in Denver!!!!!!!!!!

[timmy tiger]

ROFLMAO--Dnag 50's at it again.LMAO

I like her answer though. I will have to remember that one.LMAO

[tayoonee]

hey that's all good, I'll wear a loin cloth just for you....*wink*.....LOL!!!!

lets see..take a left, right at the next light...go down past whatchamacallit blvd..then an immediate right, another left around the curvy part and then ....you're there....c ya soon!

[50cal]

Sorry, I had to...I can't believe someone would want them to wear loin cloths...LOL

hey that's all good, I'll wear a loin cloth just for you....*wink*.....LOL!!!!

[50cal]

Sorry, I had to...I can't believe someone would want them to wear loin cloths...LOL
Whats happening 50cal? Next powwow is this coming Friday...get walking!

ooooo, so you wanna play Big Chief????.........woo-HOO!!!!.........I am so there..............wait where am I going????...........LOL!!!

[tayoonee]

only if I'm headed to CO there tayoonee.........then we can play Big Chief!!!.....LOL!!!! wut up gurlfren????.......LOL!!!!

Sorry, I had to...I can't believe someone would want them to wear loin cloths...LOL
Whats happening 50cal? Next powwow is this coming Friday...get walking!

[50cal]

only if I'm headed to CO there tayoonee.........then we can play Big Chief!!!.....LOL!!!! wut up gurlfren????.......LOL!!!!

[tayoonee]

oh man, theres a powwow this weekend.......gots to get me a new wife beater and old navy shorts that looks like it's been around the block a few times....................can't forget the beat up looking brand new hat either...........got to look sharp you know what I'm saying???......LOL!!!!

dont' forget the loin cloth!

[50cal]

oh man, theres a powwow this weekend.......gots to get me a new wife beater and old navy shorts that looks like it's been around the block a few times....................can't forget the beat up looking brand new hat either...........got to look sharp you know what I'm saying???......LOL!!!!

[Kiwehnzii]

It's really not important anyways.

Just a conversation.

[Coyot_In_The_House]

We're all entitled.....

I can care less if you agree or not. You are probablyreally young or haven't been raised in the arena, or you would have understood what I wrote. The clip attached is an example of what I was trying to convey, clean clothes, button down shirts, I don't see anyone in shorts or flip flops. It's not like this any more. Just walk around the drums at any powwow in '2008 and you lose a lot of how it used to be. Not every drum, but about 50%. I for one hate losing our ways and one of those ways is the singers appearance and behavior around our drums. Let's try to keep it real.

YouTube - Haystack Ramblers-Denver March 1989

to an opinion or two....I understood what you wrote....Be careful when you assume something though...You'd be suprised....None the less I've seen a number of singers dress in a number of ways in my 30 years of singing....However I do care and thats why I said what i said....We are all entitled to our opinions....I just felt it was a lil extreme as far as what you said.....Oh and just as a side bar....2 of my Uncles are singing in the Denver clip....Small world huh?