scrubby looking drummers!

[50cal]

Drum cut is not all that.......LOL!!!.....surprises me that anyone thinks that a little bitty drum cut can support anyone.....LOL!!!.....First of all, you got to think of gas (especially nowadays where it's past 4 bucks a gallon) you got to pitch in, and then pitch on maintenace on the vehicle, whether or not you're getting a room (got to pitch in for that as well) then you're food you're going to be eating for the week, then you got to put some aside in case you dont place the next weekend or powwow........I'm not standing up for the raunchy dudes here, but come on now, be realistic, a drum cut will not do a lot for you...........unless, they make it equal to a dancers payout.......

[preciousteddybear]

My nephew, at 6 years old, told a very popular lead singer of a drum group (who was trying to be with his mama) "You're FAT, Smell like Butt and Can't fit in our Car." When the singer asked why he didn't like him with his mama being together.
So I guess when Southern Singers are traveling all the time the rules around the drum do not apply to them like they do at home. I am sure that their Parents, Uncles, Aunties and Grandparents wouldn't let them dress or act like that around the drum at home.

Yep I agree with ur little nephew!! some singers are just plain gross trying to snag looking all stink and gross... This just show how some drummer behavior in general. they look stink and gross at pow-wows then that how they are at home with there family. Kids know how people are, i hope ur sister pay attention to ur nephew. Singers should take their pay cut and buy clothes at a yard sale or good will then take that money and blow on drugs, beer, and casinos and clean up every day. I hope drummers read this thread get the hint...

[chazziff]

My nephew, at 6 years old, told a very popular lead singer of a drum group (who was trying to be with his mama) "You're FAT, Smell like Butt and Can't fit in our Car." When the singer asked why he didn't like him with his mama being together.
So I guess when Southern Singers are traveling all the time the rules around the drum do not apply to them like they do at home. I am sure that their Parents, Uncles, Aunties and Grandparents wouldn't let them dress or act like that around the drum at home.

OMG thats nuts!! ok thats the other thing i dont understand ... you're single (well maybe not ... never know cuz theres that line "what happens on the road ... stays on the road") and you're tryna be Mr. Snaggypants.

why the heck would you go n try ... being all stink and lookin like a scrub?!? n why would you even give someone the time of day ... if they smell like swazz?!? if he smells like that now ... what makes you think he wont smell worse ... later?!? LMFAO

n ya i agree .... if you can jam chances are .... you have respect for yourself n keep yourself clean. i've seen some pix ... where they have the close up of so-n-so's head n it looks like greasey n gross .. like EWWWW!!!

i understand that some of the guys who sing ... dont have regular jobs but still you get drum cut. spend a lil on some clothes ... dont have to be big brand names either. maybe if you feel good about yourself ... you will keep it tight ... and jus maybe ... you can rock it even harder ...

[Dakota Sandz]

Whats so difficult about looking respectable if you are going to sit at a drum.It does not take that much time or effort to clean yourself and your clothes. Appearance reflects attitude and how you carry yourself, and it has nothing to do with what you have or don't have.
If you have a group of singers looking like slouches around a drum rest assured it will show in their singing and respect for what they are doing. Same thing with those drums I have seen who keep a small land fill of accumulated garbage around their drum area.

or the ones who go get ripped right before they jam out a song. I see that too many times

[Buckskinrose]

My nephew, at 6 years old, told a very popular lead singer of a drum group (who was trying to be with his mama) "You're FAT, Smell like Butt and Can't fit in our Car." When the singer asked why he didn't like him with his mama being together.
So I guess when Southern Singers are traveling all the time the rules around the drum do not apply to them like they do at home. I am sure that their Parents, Uncles, Aunties and Grandparents wouldn't let them dress or act like that around the drum at home.

[PappyRoach]

Whats so difficult about looking respectable if you are going to sit at a drum.It does not take that much time or effort to clean yourself and your clothes. Appearance reflects attitude and how you carry yourself, and it has nothing to do with what you have or don't have.
If you have a group of singers looking like slouches around a drum rest assured it will show in their singing and respect for what they are doing. Same thing with those drums I have seen who keep a small land fill of accumulated garbage around their drum area.

[Dakota Sandz]

I've seen that once in my lifetime too..where a drum group got torn a new one for slicing up a song.
The drummers, god bless there souls, were new and a lil green to say the least, and were singing for the mens tradish catagory on sunday night for finals. well after the men lined up, an older man went to the mic and started rippin them a new one, explaining to them that they should know what they were singing, as what they were singing was wrongly translated in sioux and were saying swear words, most notably for the word wicasa (wee-cha-sha or wee-cha-sta if your dakota) but were saying wicasha and if you take the part after wica, that last part is a BAAAAAD one in sioux, meaning a womens private part.
He went on to tell them that they should practice and what not, and sing appropriatly.
I guess dude had a reason to get mad, but on the mic, I dunno. I woulda went up to them with some smokes or something and pulled them aside and told them what they did wrong, rather then embarass the hell out of them for the whole powwow to see.
I gotta admitt though...call me an azzhole, but I hate it too when I gotta dance to a sliced up song for competition, but ya know ya gotta take the good with the bad, most times the arena directer will get ya a CHO song the next song by the host drum or something...

sorry for taking this off-topic...but what billyjimbob said really reminded me bout when I saw that and thought I would share that.

[billyjoejimbob]

A couple years ago I got to go to Rosebud Fair. There were about 45drums. When they announced 5 singer minimum the number dropped about 10 drums. There were alot of community drums from Rosebud and Pine Ridge. They may not have looked dapper, but they were respectful.

I WAS rather disappointed at a couple tho. 1 in general who have a couple CDs out and are REALLY good. They were in their own world doin there own thing during the powwow, loud, rowdy and sloppy.

And I must say that it was the only time in 20 years that I have seen an MC stop a drum AND yell at them for about 5 minutes. (not the same drum, another one who sang a bad song)

[lclbcook]

I was taught growin up that you look respectable around the drum. People see that, It dont look good if you look or smell bad. A lot of my teachins come from my dad and uncles, they told me things about your aperance around the drum show respect for the drum and the people around it.

[laokie]

I agree Softwind. My dad was a singer from way back and his dad before him. They always came to the drum dressed in a dress shirt and slacks. He always told my brother that if he wanted to sing at the drum to always look his best, no t-shirts, no shorts, no tennis shoes.....this is to show respect for the drum. Nobody says you have to wear a suit and tie or beaded vest, but at least look decent!! Some of those drum groups may sound awesome but then when ya get a look at them it's a letdown!!

[softwind]

wow, so a drum's standing at the end of the powwow would be based on what a female judge thought of a singers clothes???.....and just not their ability to wail????.....remind not to go powwows in NC anymore.......LOL!!!!

All I got to say is there ain't nothin wrong with looking respectful around the drum. Some of these groups practise and take what they do seriously, and really care that their drum not only sounds good but looks respectful and acts in a good way, it also earns them respect. So for me I look at all aspects. When some come in half cocked, and are there to just get a check so they can just keep moving on like some kind of game, to me that doesn't look good. If you are a true drummer to me you are there for the dancers, not just a check.

[ndnsooner]

one year at thunderbird pow-wow, they made all singers put on jeans or pants. no shorts allowed.

[Chevy_truckin_NDN]

geez, I never paid attention to the way the drummers were dressed. Though at one powwow I did notice all the drummers wearing crisp white long sleeved button down shirts with white cowboy hats.....................gahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh . Now that was nice.

[50cal]

Now talking about Schemitzun for the best dressed drum group......Stoney PArk, Black Lodge, Northern Cree, Cozad and a bunch of others all looked pretty dang cool......that was when it was a lot more fun though......too much dang poilitics in everything.........it'snot about who looks good or sounds good anymore....it's who's kissing who's rearend all weekend that determines winners nowadays.....so line up those shots!!!....LOL!!!

[ndngirl70]

I remember watching a hand drum comp at Schemtizun one year. Cedar Tree came up and they all had matching outfits with the applique vests. Dang they looked sharp!