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  • Swine Flu at powwows

    I was planning on going to New York City this week. Because there is a National Health warning issued for the number of cases that are documented there, I am now not going.

    This is something that will definitely affect powwows in the near future.

    As this epidemic continues to spread, how will this effect your decision to attend powwows in the areas where the swine flu is present?

    Would you subject yourself or your family, drum group, or the group you travel with to the possibllity of picking up this type of flu at a powwow?
    Powwows will continue to evolve in many directions. It is inevitable.

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    Here is an interactive map showing the outbreaks world wide.

    RSOE EDIS - Pandemic Monitoring System

    Its scary to think that someone was effected while at GoN last week and gave it to others. It would have a great effect on natives all over N America.
    Last edited by ndnsooner; 04-28-2009, 01:10 PM.
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    • #3
      i still going to the places i go ,but im thinking about getting some nose masks,we had a school close down untill may 1 because to boys had it, thier not having church either its aways from austin ,but the schools here are sending home kids with coff yester day i think 5 from my daughter jr high went home.

      the news around here is full of the city officals talking giving news briffs .
      my daughter works in a ICU privet hospital and she said no one been in yet for that. but im not sure she could say if someone did ,she dont seem worried tho....

      why is it so bad for lots of ppl to get the same flu? why is this one so diffrent ?i know some ppl have died is it no way to help if one does not have money or somthing like that ,or just having to close down a whole ciry for weeks or more could wreck havec im sure .....it try and stop it from going futher
      Life isn't about waiting for the storm to pass..It's about learning to dance in the rain. for me and the wolf

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      • #4
        Originally posted by 2lineCarrandMorgan View Post
        i still going to the places i go ,but im thinking about getting some nose masks,we had a school close down untill may 1 because to boys had it, thier not having church either its aways from austin ,but the schools here are sending home kids with coff yester day i think 5 from my daughter jr high went home.

        the news around here is full of the city officals talking giving news briffs .
        my daughter works in a ICU privet hospital and she said no one been in yet for that. but im not sure she could say if someone did ,she dont seem worried tho....

        why is it so bad for lots of ppl to get the same flu? why is this one so diffrent ?i know some ppl have died is it no way to help if one does not have money or somthing like that ,or just having to close down a whole ciry for weeks or more could wreck havec im sure .....it try and stop it from going futher
        the flu strain is a combination of pig, bird and human viruses that humans may have no natural immunity to.

        http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090428/.../med_swine_flu
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        • #5
          Who Me.....

          Saddle up that Horse and head to the Big City.......Haka!

          I find this interesting.....there are 20 Million! 20 Million people living in Mexico City. The recognized point of origin.....About 100 or so have died from the illness.....Not good if 1 person died, but only time will tell how widespread it is.....As far as NYC, well Saint Francis Prep students carried it back from Mexico .....Hopefully it will be contained? Now there's always my perspective.....Theres something else going on......
          "She also has a very soft skin. The only trouble with snake women is they copulate with horses, which makes them strange to me. She say's she doesn't. That's why I call her "Doesn't Like Horses". But, of course, she's lying."

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          • #6
            This is kinda scary
            And i dont like to say this but its practiacally inevitable
            Modern man has done away with so many things detremental to them. Making predators nearly extinct, medicine and hospitals, lack of heavy warfare (i know we loose many soldiers all the time but not like in WWI, WWII etc...)

            The world is quite overpopulated and nature will find ways to deal with issues at hand.

            Funny how it is the germs that harm humans the most, when we are the most harmful parasite on the planet.
            Yah win some yah loose some.

            Its these times i am semi-thankful for having no children as i think i would be in much more panic mode

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            • #7
              The concern with this flu (which they are now terming the North American Influenza) is that it, as was mentioned in a previous post, has components of human, avian, and swine flu. At this time, there is no vaccine available although it does respond to early treatment with anti-virals. Initial indications were that it was contracted by people who had traveled to Mexico, but we are seeing the potiental human-to-human transmission to people who have not traveled to that area. With the increasing number of international cases, and the global nature of our world today, there is concern that this could rapidly spread.

              Fortunately, the cases in the US have been mild and there have been no deaths reported in the US. Once concern from Mexico is that those who have died as a result of this outbreak are in an age category not typically effected by flu-related deaths (ages 25-50 instead of the "expected range" of the very young and very old).

              WhoMe's question is timely as I had the same thought while preparing to go to a dance this weekend. Things to remember are to wash your hands, if you think you have the flu or other respiratory illness you need to stay home, and avoid contact with individuals who may have traveled into Mexico within the past one to two weeks.

              Keep your fingers crossed and have fun out there.

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              • #8
                The person-to-person contact is what has the CDC worried, and in those cases limiting contact in large groups (schools, workplaces, churches) can certainly help in reducing the spread. I guess if a powwow was located in an area where there were already confirmed cases I would think the event would be cancelled anyway. Of course, until a case is identified you don't have that kind of direction.

                I've been sick since Sunday, and woke up this morning feeling awful. Even though I haven't traveled or been around anyone who has traveled to any of these areas where the disease has been identified, I still went and got checked out. Thankfully it's just a plain old ordinary bacterial upper respiratory infection. (Still feel like crap, though).

                I did hear on the news that they have 3 people in the Milwaukee area that are being tested (they have symptoms and apparently have had a travel risk) - 2 in Elmbrook and 1 in Greenfield. They should know in a few days if it's swine flu or not.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by NorthofAda View Post
                    I guess if a powwow was located in an area where there were already confirmed cases I would think the event would be cancelled anyway.

                    North,

                    This is kinda what I'm getting at.

                    If a powwow is not cancelled and takes place where there are already confirmed cases ....

                    ... I would hate to be the one who contacted it, and brought it back to my community.
                    Powwows will continue to evolve in many directions. It is inevitable.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by WhoMe View Post
                      North,

                      This is kinda what I'm getting at.

                      If a powwow is not cancelled and takes place where there are already confirmed cases ....

                      ... I would hate to be the one who contacted it, and brought it back to my community.
                      Me too. And as a mom I especially wouldn't want little ones exposed to it - my kids or anyone else's.

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                      • #12
                        I just heard on the news that there is 100 confirmed cases in NY now.
                        They are say this virus has a 6 to 7 day incubation period.
                        I hope everyone stays safe out there in powwow country. Please.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Kawymah2 View Post
                          Psalms 91
                          So as long as we trust in him we will be ok?

                          I think that washing my hands after contact and covering my mouth when I cough will be a bit more practical...
                          ᎠᏂᎩᏚᏩᎩ - Anigiduwagi
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                          • #14
                            They could mix it with mad cow and call it a Barnyard Viral Jamboree!!!!

                            ( i know its not laughing matter but joking about it makes coping with actuality of it easier)

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Josiah View Post
                              So as long as we trust in him we will be ok?

                              I think that washing my hands after contact and covering my mouth when I cough will be a bit more practical...
                              While I believe in the Creator's ability to protect, I think He gave us some common sense, too, don't you think?

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