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    hello all i am trying to write a paper on sun dancing..i was wondering if anyone out there had any type of information to share with me

  • #2
    *shakes head*


    You will get some answers alright. I'll give you some good advice: Keep your eyes open, your mouth shut and you will definitely obtain some insight. Since you just asked such a question, you will get answers you may not like to hear. But hopefully you will respect an ndn's standpoint.

    I was wondering, why choose to do a paper on the sundance?
    Last edited by Ruthless; 05-05-2003, 06:54 PM.

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    • #3
      Anybody know where I can get info on that Snake-charming religious group in the deep south? I need info on them for my term paper.

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      • #4
        I guess he wanted the most difficult paper to write in the world.

        I wouldnt even know where to start......actually, I wouldn't even start.

        I'm assuming you have all the books already? Black Elk, Lame Deer, etc.
        There are 2 types of people in the world...
        Really stupid people who think they are smart
        and
        Really smart people who think they are smart.

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        • #5
          You should first start by letting us know about yourself. You didnt fill in anything on your profile. Im sure the people here dont want to waste their time on someone if they arent sincere about NDN ways.
          There are 2 types of people in the world...
          Really stupid people who think they are smart
          and
          Really smart people who think they are smart.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Kiwehnzii
            Anybody know where I can get info on that Snake-charming religious group in the deep south? I need info on them for my term paper.
            I do! I know a group of people that teach seminars on just such a thing. Well they really aren't a group. And well they don't use snakes because that is too dangerous, so the improvize and come to think of it they aren't very religious and they aren't in the deep south, so well, nevermind.
            Never go commando in another man's fatigues!!!

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            • #7
              Them snakes eat them grits and redeyed gravy and slows them down when it comes to they are handled.

              I guess the texts by Black Elk is probably a good part to read about the Lakota sundance from 1870-80's and a starting point for a paper. It is a bit different today but the elements are still there and NO I will not be an informant to an outsider....we have had enough people write from ignorance from all sides about this ceremony brought by the white buffalo calf woman to the people.

              As one poster said "eyes open....mouth shut"

              Morninghawk

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Morninghawk
                Them snakes eat them grits and redeyed gravy and slows them down when it comes to they are handled

                Morninghawk
                I cannot believe you put this sacred info out on the web for every wannabe snakehandler to see!!:Shocked :Eyebrows :Mad

                Life is a mystery to be lived not a problem to be solved

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                • #9


                  Cheers,

                  Morninghawk

                  p.s. At least I did not tell about the 11 herbs and spices that go in
                  gravy....

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                  • #10
                    lol
                    cant we all just get along?

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                    • #11
                      I admit it. You've found me out. Dammit.

                      I just wanted info so I could start my own cult and be a Snake shaman.

                      I'll not bother you again. You humiliated me and I hope someone sticks up for me. :Cry

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                      • #12
                        Blairman

                        In case you can't tell from the post you have received so far you are not very likely to get our members to post much about your question. I'm sure their satire is not of much use to you but, you are trying to write about someone's religious practices and most of the folks that practice this (which by-the-way are the only people qualified to comment about it, and I am not one of them) are usually not very keen on the idea of disseminating that information out to people they do not know. Unlike most religions of middle eastern origin, those who practice sundance are not looking for converts and are not likely to share info about it with you.

                        Some of our members have suggested some light reading for you and that would be your best place to look.

                        Good luck with your paper.
                        PB49

                        "Every child is an artist. The problem is how to remain an artist once we grow up." Pablo Picasso

                        "Yesterday is history, tomorrow is a mystery, but today is a gift...that is why is it called the Present." Master Oogway - KungFu Panda


                        My comments are based on what I have been taught and my experiences over the years I have been around the circle. They should in no way be taken as gospel truths and are merely my opinions or attempts at passing on what I have learned while still learning more.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by powwowbum49
                          Blairman

                          In case you can't tell from the post you have received so far you are not very likely to get our members to post much about your question. I'm sure their satire is not of much use to you but, you are trying to write about someone's religious practices and most of the folks that practice this (which by-the-way are the only people qualified to comment about it, and I am not one of them) are usually not very keen on the idea of disseminating that information out to people they do not know. Unlike most religions of middle eastern origin, those who practice sundance are not looking for converts and are not likely to share info about it with you.

                          Some of our members have suggested some light reading for you and that would be your best place to look.

                          Good luck with your paper.

                          Well said, powwowbum49! :D

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                          • #14
                            Blairman, one suggestion. DONT write about a topic like that. Last year I wrote a paper on how the native culture affected history. I am involved, and my uncles were very helpful in being subtle. But truthfully if you are going in blind it is impossible to: one get info and two to explain it in a way that would be respectful. Like I said I had A LOT of help and they did that because they trust me and felt it was a good way to introduce our ways outside without revealing much, and I would NEVER do a topi like that again.
                            When your in the arena nothing matters but the step of your feet, the sway of your fringe and the beat of the drum. ~Peace love and fry bread.~

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                            • #15
                              hi..was this topic assigned to you? i really wouldnt suggest to write about it....why not go into a different direction such as:
                              Domestic abuse among Native community,
                              Diabetes among Native men and women,
                              Aids among Native community, casinos in native community: How are they viewed?
                              Native Women's rights etc... try to stick with something community related and defintily not native history ...its way too broad....you can get tons of information about above topics at different community centers throughout all the reservations...

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