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  • stonewoman74
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    I usally attend a powwow once or twice a year in my area.. and I have always danced in the intertribal when the mc anouces all can enter. The only thing I have right now is shawl that was givin to me as a gift 10 years ago. So I carry my shawl with me when I enter the circle. I am wanting to create my own regalia which I have been putting toghter as time goes by. From what I gather and read on read it doesnt matter what the regalia looks like as long it is of your own design right?
    I havent got any beadings on my outfit does there have to be any beading? I want to get my dance out fit toghter before the next powwow and I want to dance traditonal. But I am so scared I will get loked at funny for the way I design my reglia.
    My family heritage is irish,dutch,german,french,seneca,catawba,and lumbee and to be honest with I am not sure exactly how my regalia should be. Or maybe I should just shrug it all off just continue to dance with just my shawl during all can inter circle?

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  • neling4
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    I think I own that pattern.

    I've heard of Crazy Crow and I will check them out. Thanks!

    I guess I will be the only one in my family to dance, unless my daughter joins me.

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  • Traditonal Lady
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    Originally posted by neling4 View Post
    Thanks again for the information Traditional Lady.

    I was thinking that I would make my dress of red fabric. Does there exist a pattern for the tee dress? I am planning to make a finger-woven belt as well, and I am trying to find a pattern or kit for center-seam moccasins. I am thinking I should keep my regalia very simple, since I am just beginning.

    Does the shawl have to be a solid fabric, or could it be a print, and is the purse necessary?

    Sorry for all the questions. It is really nice of you to take the time to help me out.

    My family moved to Castlewood, Virginia, in Russell County. It is in what is called the "Toe of Virginia", near the Kentucky border. I am related to the Taylors, Sextons and Dyes of that area.
    Unfortunately there is a pattern, it is a Simplicity "Halloween Costume". I say unfortunately because it is considered a costume. I think red is an excellent color. I have one that is red with roses on it.

    You can order a kit from Crazy Crow Indian Craft suppliers. They are in Texas but you can "Google it" and order online.

    Yes the shawl should be a solid color, preferably out of gabardine material. The purse is optional.

    My family escaped the Trail of Tears in NC. They lived in SW Virginia (Cumberland and Buckingham counties) in the 1800's, then in the late 1890's they moved on to NY. They are the Lightfoots and the Jones.

    No problem with the help. It is good to see other Cherokees share the love of dance. My daughter, my older sister and I are the only ones in the family who dance.

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  • neling4
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    Thanks again for the information Traditional Lady.

    I was thinking that I would make my dress of red fabric. Does there exist a pattern for the tee dress? I am planning to make a finger-woven belt as well, and I am trying to find a pattern or kit for center-seam moccasins. I am thinking I should keep my regalia very simple, since I am just beginning.

    Does the shawl have to be a solid fabric, or could it be a print, and is the purse necessary?

    Sorry for all the questions. It is really nice of you to take the time to help me out.

    My family moved to Castlewood, Virginia, in Russell County. It is in what is called the "Toe of Virginia", near the Kentucky border. I am related to the Taylors, Sextons and Dyes of that area.
    Last edited by neling4; 12-19-2007, 04:11 PM.

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  • Traditonal Lady
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    Originally posted by neling4 View Post
    Thank you so much, Traditional Lady! I appreciate your help.

    I also have a question about the regalia. My family moved from North Carolina to Virginia before the removals, so I don't think the tear dress is even appropriate for me. What would be the traditional regalia for Eastern Cherokee for this dance?

    You are very welcome!

    As I said before the Tear Dress was adopted by the Cherokee Nation in Oklahoma, not the Eastern Band. I would suggest that you wear a Tee Dress in colors that reflect your family.

    My family also moved to Virginia before the Trail of Tears. What part of Virginia is your family from?

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  • neling4
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    Thank you so much, Traditional Lady! I appreciate your help.

    I also have a question about the regalia. My family moved from North Carolina to Virginia before the removals, so I don't think the tear dress is even appropriate for me. What would be the traditional regalia for Eastern Cherokee for this dance?
    Last edited by neling4; 12-19-2007, 12:50 PM.

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  • Traditonal Lady
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    Originally posted by neling4 View Post
    OMG. I am so sorry about your grandpa. I guess I was lucky that my granddaddy wasn't at all like that. He was "whiter than sour cream" and one of the sweetest men I have ever known. His children by his Cherokee wife, my grandma, grew up proud of their heritage, both white and Cherokee.

    I am on a learning quest rather like yours. I was raised with more of an emphasis on the European side of my heritage, although, thanks to my dad, I am very aware of my Cherokee heritage. I want to know more.

    I think this cloth dance is very beautiful, although I suspect it has nothing to do with Cherokee culture. I have some questions about it which I hope someone will answer. Can anyone tell me if one needs a sponsor to begin dancing?


    You are right, cloth dancing has nothing to do with Cherokee culture. It is a very beautiful dance and we have come to adopt it as one of our dance styles when we are at inter-tribal powwows.

    No you do not need a sponsor to begin dancing. However you may see an elder dancing that inspires you. I would suggest that you go to her, offer her some tobacco and tell her that you would like to learn. As always, be very respectful!

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  • Traditonal Lady
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    Originally posted by dancingirl49 View Post
    I have relatives from the Eastern band, but my Momma was from Oklahoma. Tallequah. Unfortunately she was raised like so many, to deny her heritage. To even speak of it within her family was a beating offense (Grandpa was euro-trash), so I've spent the last 18 years learning. That may be the reason I have a problem with the tear dress!
    Maggie Littlejohn
    Sorry to hear about your grandfather, but from what I have heard that was the "norm" in those days. My grandfather said that if you mentioned that you were Cherokee it was a reason to send you to Oklahoma. He passed on the oral history to me and was careful to the end of his life not to mention it outside of the immediate family.

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  • neling4
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    Originally posted by dancingirl49 View Post
    I have relatives from the Eastern band, but my Momma was from Oklahoma. Tallequah. Unfortunately she was raised like so many, to deny her heritage. To even speak of it within her family was a beating offense (Grandpa was euro-trash), so I've spent the last 18 years learning. That may be the reason I have a problem with the tear dress!
    Maggie Littlejohn
    OMG. I am so sorry about your grandpa. I guess I was lucky that my granddaddy wasn't at all like that. He was "whiter than sour cream" and one of the sweetest men I have ever known. His children by his Cherokee wife, my grandma, grew up proud of their heritage, both white and Cherokee.

    I am on a learning quest rather like yours. I was raised with more of an emphasis on the European side of my heritage, although, thanks to my dad, I am very aware of my Cherokee heritage. I want to know more.

    I think this cloth dance is very beautiful, although I suspect it has nothing to do with Cherokee culture. I have some questions about it which I hope someone will answer. Can anyone tell me if one needs a sponsor to begin dancing?

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  • dancingirl49
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    Originally posted by Traditonal Lady View Post
    You did not say what band of Cherokee you are.The Tear Dress was adopted by the Cherokee Nation (Western). The Eastern Band did not adopt this style of dress. I am of the Eastern Band so I wear a tee dress, or a ribbon work dress done in Cherokee colors. I also have buckskin but it is not practical for the warm climate I live in now.
    I have relatives from the Eastern band, but my Momma was from Oklahoma. Tallequah. Unfortunately she was raised like so many, to deny her heritage. To even speak of it within her family was a beating offense (Grandpa was euro-trash), so I've spent the last 18 years learning. That may be the reason I have a problem with the tear dress!
    Maggie Littlejohn

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  • Traditonal Lady
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    Cherokee Tear Dress

    Originally posted by dancingirl49 View Post
    I am one of those with issues about dancing in my tribal style. I am Cherokee, but cannot bring myself to ever don a tear dress. Many of them are beautiful and I am not disparaging those who wear them, but to me they say assimilation and the loss of our culture. I wear buckskin or cloth with buckskin fringe.
    By the way, so no confusion, I am the fancy dance cutie's Mom!
    You did not say what band of Cherokee you are.The Tear Dress was adopted by the Cherokee Nation (Western). The Eastern Band did not adopt this style of dress. I am of the Eastern Band so I wear a tee dress, or a ribbon work dress done in Cherokee colors. I also have buckskin but it is not practical for the warm climate I live in now.

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  • dancingirl49
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    I am one of those with issues about dancing in my tribal style. I am Cherokee, but cannot bring myself to ever don a tear dress. Many of them are beautiful and I am not disparaging those who wear them, but to me they say assimilation and the loss of our culture. I wear buckskin or cloth with buckskin fringe.
    By the way, so no confusion, I am the fancy dance cutie's Mom!

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  • neling4
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    Thanks Creewoman05!
    Last edited by neling4; 11-22-2007, 12:47 AM.

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  • Creewoman05
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    Originally posted by neling4 View Post
    Seriously! I am curious to know if this was the pattern that DeusExMachina meant:

    Simplicity Historic 5446 Native American Dress Pattern - (eBay item 300155767303 end time Nov-26-07 09:02:27 PST)
    I believe that is it

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  • neling4
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    Seriously! I am curious to know if this was the pattern that DeusExMachina meant:

    Simplicity Historic 5446 Native American Dress Pattern - (eBay item 300155767303 end time Nov-26-07 09:02:27 PST)

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