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  • The True History of the Cherokee Tear Dress.

    I found this in a Cherokee website.

    Any truth to it's claim of "dispelling a myth that Cherokee women wore the tear dress at the time of the Trail of Tears?

    Anyone?

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    "This story may seem shocking and little sad to some who are romantically inclined to the modern myth about the Tear Dress. The myth is that our women wore this style of dress at the time of the Trail of Tears in 1838-39. That is not true for two reasons.

    First of all, Cherokee never had a traditional style of dress that was unique or ethnically different than any other tribe in the hot and humid Southeastern United States. The clothing of both sexes, as described by the very earliest European adventurers, was primitive and scant, covering mostly their private parts, and made of mostly animal hides and furs. They did use a rudimentary form of finger weaving and netting to make sashes, belts and rope. Loom weaving technology, which would allow them to make piece goods, was not available until the opening of the frontier to missionaries, the Moravians in particular.

    The clothing they made was fashioned on the type of clothing they were taught to make plain, simple and utilitarian. Frontier fashion was nothing like those seen in picture books and paintings of the ladies in eastern sea coast cities such as Boston, Philadelphia or New York. The second reason that the Tear Dress could not have been worn at the time of the Trail of Tears is because the style is completely wrong for the period. Women�s fashions of every historical period have a very definite silhouette, related primarily to the rise and fall of the waistline and the shape and size of the skirt.

    In the late 1830�s, the period of the beginning and the end of the Trail of Tears episode, women of fashion in the cities along the eastern seaboard were wearing garments that costume historians call late Empire, Romantic period, or Early Victorian. The Tear Dress is definitely a style that came into fashion at a later date.

    There is one painting extant of a Texas Cherokee couple which shows the woman wearing a most definite "Empire" style gown � high waist, bell shaped skirt and short puff sleeves. Whether this painting was executed on site with real Cherokees as models, thus recording a moment in time, or was finished by the artist at a later time, and using another model in city-fied clothing. It was not uncommon for artists to use substitute models when painting Indian subjects.

    The first official tear dress was made for and worn by Virginia Stroud during her reign in the titled position as "Miss Indian America" 1969. The garment we call the Cherokee Tear Dress came about to fulfill the needs of a particular situation and had more to do with embarrassment than it had to do with tribal pride or tradition. The situation arose in 1968 when a young Cherokee woman, by the name of Virginia Stroud, was chosen as "Miss Indian America". She had competed and was crowned in a Kiowa buckskin dress she had borrowed from a college friend.

    W.W. Keeler, who was the appointed Cherokee Chief at the time, was approached by a group of Cherokee women about Virginia Stroud�s official wardrobe. They felt it was unacceptable for a Cherokee women who was suppose to be representing the Cherokee people in the public eye was appearing at public events dressed as a Kiowa. Chief Keeler agreed and appointed a committee of Cherokee women to find something more appropriate for Miss Stroud that would reflect the Cherokee�s eastern woodland traditions, history and style.

    They could not find an established precedence in Oklahoma for a traditional tribal dress. The answer they decided could only be found someplace in North Carolina, Georgia or Tennessee. The ladies mounted a serious search for a record of a dress design that would be uniquely Cherokee and acceptable by Chief Keeler. They did not want to simply copy or adapt any other tribe�s style. And they did not want the dress to look anything like the Plain�s Indian dress. They also wanted the dress to be historically correct and if a dress could be found, it had to be documented.

    Ms. Stroud flew back to Tulsa and was met by a personal representative of Chief Keeler. It was at that point that Chief Keeler and his handpicked committee of Cherokee women began their search to find a suitable Cherokee outfit for her to wear. Two of the women on the committee were Marie Waddle, a BIA employee, and Wynona Day, the daughter of an influential Cherokee family from the days before statehood. Wynona Day is the person responsible for discovering the dress that became the prototype and model for the modern day Tear Dress. I have recently been told that the dress actually belonged to Wynona Day�s Grandmother or great-grandmother and that it had in truth been stored in a trunk. She had come across it by chance after she inherited her mother's belongings. She remembered having seen the dress and had retrieved it for the committee to examine.

    As soon as the committee of women decided that Wynona�s Grandmother�s hand made dress would be perfectly acceptable for the new Miss Indian America to wear as a representative of the Cherokee people, Chief Keeler concurred. The next step was to get a new Tear Dress made for Virginia to wear.

    Virginia Stroud�s sister, Elizabeth Walters, who she calls B, made the new dress. She copied the dress line for line, including duplicating the reverse applique on the decorative bands over the shoulders and around the skirt. The dress has a square neckline and no buttons or buttonholes. It closes with hooks and eyes; however the original had no visible means of fastening the dress with modern closures. We believe that according to fashion research, it was common practice for women to use broach pins to fasten blouses and those garments known as waists. Today we would probably just use safety pins."
    Powwows will continue to evolve in many directions. It is inevitable.

  • #2
    Interesting.

    now a bit more....with a photo!!

    Follow the attached link for some additional info, and on where the dress now resides.

    The model, according to the blurb here, is wearing a copper crown belonging to Virginia Stroud.


    "This next song goes out to some girls in dot com. They don't know who they are, but, it doesn't really matter anyway."




    "When the God's wish to punish us, they grant our prayers."

    O. Wilde

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    • #3
      Although, it sounds nice and well thought out and all.

      I'm skeptical of the analysis.


      To assume that ALL peoples in a tropical environment went about in next to nothing, especially with a driving force from a non-native culture, and it's ever present influences.

      .....down right preposterous.

      Despite the claims to have an old dress in storage etc. ...


      Don't prove nothin'

      The fact remains, the cut, or general cut of the dress, it's length, and the manner in which the upper regions of the shirt were made, are atypical of the period.

      It's called a 'day dress.'

      All this mention of Early Victorian, and Romantic and Empire. ....ALL styles of clothing favored by the wealthy.

      The everyday individual would have settled on an inexpensive, yet readily available material. .....ie........COTTON.

      One has only to look at the styles of the period, long, ankle length dresses, shirts, or blouses with long sleeves, closed neckline, with buttons, clasps or hook and eye closures going up the full length.

      Modesty was paramount.


      Women just didn't show ankle back then.

      .....calves, knees and CERTAINLY not thigh!

      ....dang, how times have changed.

      LOL


      I personally believe it possible that a form of dress similar in appearance to the Tear Dress was worn on the Trail of Tears.


      .....its funny, but, I always thought it got its name from the manner in which was made. By TEARING the fabric.

      The Apaches certainly do that, tear the fabric, the hell with scissors. Navajo's the same way.

      Tear the fabric.

      An interesting topic I suppose.
      "This next song goes out to some girls in dot com. They don't know who they are, but, it doesn't really matter anyway."




      "When the God's wish to punish us, they grant our prayers."

      O. Wilde

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      • #4
        I can believe that they wore animal skins before the Europeans arrived here, but as for wearing them dearing the trail of tears I don't think so. By the time of the removal the Europeans had so much influence o the Cherokee and the other tribes in the area, that you know they were wearing something close to what the Europeans were. Probable a skirt of ankel length and some sort of blouse. I think, and this is just my oppinion, the Cherokee probable later on after the removal took the style of European clothing they were wearing and put there on ideas with it to make it their own. The tear dress is pretty different from what the Europeans were wearing only the base line was similar.
        I was always told that the name came from tearing the fabric to make the dress, maybe someone misread the word thinking it was tear, like you cry, and then connecting it to the trail of tears. You never know things like that have happen before.
        The look on a baby's face the first time they hear the drum is priceless.......

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        • #5
          Originally posted by dancinfancy View Post
          I can believe that they wore animal skins before the Europeans arrived here, but as for wearing them dearing the trail of tears I don't think so. By the time of the removal the Europeans had so much influence o the Cherokee and the other tribes in the area, that you know they were wearing something close to what the Europeans were. Probable a skirt of ankel length and some sort of blouse. I think, and this is just my oppinion, the Cherokee probable later on after the removal took the style of European clothing they were wearing and put there on ideas with it to make it their own. The tear dress is pretty different from what the Europeans were wearing only the base line was similar.
          I was always told that the name came from tearing the fabric to make the dress, maybe someone misread the word thinking it was tear, like you cry, and then connecting it to the trail of tears. You never know things like that have happen before.

          Thank you for Summarizing my second and first posts to this topic.
          "This next song goes out to some girls in dot com. They don't know who they are, but, it doesn't really matter anyway."




          "When the God's wish to punish us, they grant our prayers."

          O. Wilde

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          • #6
            I have heard Tear as in TEER dress regarding the Trail of Tears. (because EVERYTHING has to have a spiritual significance);) No one just wears anything anymore.

            I have also heard of Tear as in TARE dress being named because the material was not cut, it was torn. (becuase Cherokee people couldnt afford siccors i guess) again ;)

            who's to say.
            There are 2 types of people in the world...
            Really stupid people who think they are smart
            and
            Really smart people who think they are smart.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Mr Bo Jangles View Post
              Thank you for Summarizing my second and first posts to this topic.
              What can I say great minds think alike, lol. I went back and read and what I said is pretty close to what you where saying, but that's ok, there's nothing wrong with sharing the same oppinion, lol.

              It's a very mind twisting topic, there may not be anyone lift that knows the real answer to it though, and that's a shame, but hopefully someone does I would like to know the truth. To much of our native history is lost and forgotten and we need to do everything to keep that from happening in the future.
              The look on a baby's face the first time they hear the drum is priceless.......

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              • #8
                Agreed!

                Originally posted by dancinfancy View Post
                I can believe that they wore animal skins before the Europeans arrived here, but as for wearing them dearing the trail of tears I don't think so. By the time of the removal the Europeans had so much influence o the Cherokee and the other tribes in the area, that you know they were wearing something close to what the Europeans were. Probable a skirt of ankel length and some sort of blouse. I think, and this is just my oppinion, the Cherokee probable later on after the removal took the style of European clothing they were wearing and put there on ideas with it to make it their own. The tear dress is pretty different from what the Europeans were wearing only the base line was similar.
                I was always told that the name came from tearing the fabric to make the dress, maybe someone misread the word thinking it was tear, like you cry, and then connecting it to the trail of tears. You never know things like that have happen before.
                I was told that the Tear Dress was originally made by the missionaries for Cherokee women attending their schools. It had a high collar and long sleeves with a skirt that went to the tops of shoes because the missionaries thought that we showed too much skin. Originally we wore an animal hide wrap around skirt with leggings, bare top.

                The "tear or god's eye" was added after the Trail of Tears to remind of us of our ancestors who were removed to the West and the fabric was torn because of the absence of scissors. The Eastern band did not accept this as their traditional dress to this day. I have also seen the same style dress worn by the women of the Eastern band with a mountain design on it (particularly people who trace their tribes to the mountains). I personally like this one better.
                Walk softly on Mother Earth

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Traditonal Lady View Post
                  .....Originally we wore an animal hide wrap around skirt with leggings, bare top.

                  Tradish,

                  So going topless is TRUE CHEROKEE TRADITIONAL?

                  Do you think that would go over big today?
                  Powwows will continue to evolve in many directions. It is inevitable.

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                  • #10
                    Correct

                    Originally posted by WhoMe View Post
                    Tradish,

                    So going topless is TRUE CHEROKEE TRADITIONAL?

                    Do you think that would go over big today?

                    Yes, (before European contact) that has been my teaching from the elders. I am a descendant of the mountain people.
                    Walk softly on Mother Earth

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                    • #11
                      Actually, I was approached several years ago by a gentleman who found a very similar story online and brought it to me because I am a traditional dancer who wears that type of dress and I made it myself. I started to laugh, because the story actually made more sense to me then the other stories out there that you hear about it being from the "trail of tears" and all of that. I had heard those stories and always said that they were bunk. The person who had written the article that I was given mentioned some names of people who he verified the story with from both the Oklahoma and NC Cherokee's and I recognized some of the names on the list. I don't live on the REZ, but am decended and very connected to Cherokee, NC. I verified some of this story with some of the Elders that I know and much of it was confirmed. When someone from Cherokee or who is affiliated with Cherokee introduces the grand entry and I'm in it, they usually state that the dress that I wear as a "Southern Cloth" not a "Tear" dress. I just smile. The old cloth dresses that you see in the old pictures are more "Prairie Dresses" then anything else. That was the style in that area for many not just the Cherokee. As for going "topless", well now I have never heard or been told that by any of the women that I talk to, but I was told about another style of dress that did cover the women on top and bottom in a certain way.

                      Unfortunately, in todays society it has become "if it sounds good to me then that's the way it was back then" or "Let's make it up as we go along". Well, there are some of us who don't live on the rez that actually have some kind of common sense and can realize the BS when we hear it and see it. That's not to put down or mean to be offensive to some who have fallen for or believed some of the garbage that is out there, we all have had to learn hard lessons about life from time to time and we probably will in the future as well.

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