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    So went to the pow wow on the weekend, I had a good time and i did get to watch some of my family dance. But most of all, I got to watch my sister dance fancy shawl.

    As, I'm sitting watching her competitions, I noticed that the grace had gone from ladies fancy. Skirts are flying, Shawls are being whipped and some women are dancing like men. I was really dissapointed when the mother of one dancer took a blanket out honor her daughter. Unfortunatly, the daughter had to stay and dance on the blanket for most of the rest of the song.

    Where did the grace go in ladies fancy?

    I know that there are those of you who still act like a lady, but why do the ones who don't walk home with the cash?
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    Originally posted by Dakota-GiftedGal View Post
    So went to the pow wow on the weekend, I had a good time and i did get to watch some of my family dance. But most of all, I got to watch my sister dance fancy shawl.

    As, I'm sitting watching her competitions, I noticed that the grace had gone from ladies fancy. Skirts are flying, Shawls are being whipped and some women are dancing like men. I was really dissapointed when the mother of one dancer took a blanket out honor her daughter. Unfortunatly, the daughter had to stay and dance on the blanket for most of the rest of the song.

    Where did the grace go in ladies fancy?

    I know that there are those of you who still act like a lady, but why do the ones who don't walk home with the cash?

    It's the same thing I think when I see grass dancing (though there are a few "old-timers" who still dance with grace). It's all flapping their arms and jerky movements, the fluidity is gone. I blame MTV.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Dakota-GiftedGal View Post
      So went to the pow wow on the weekend, I had a good time and i did get to watch some of my family dance. But most of all, I got to watch my sister dance fancy shawl.

      As, I'm sitting watching her competitions, I noticed that the grace had gone from ladies fancy. Skirts are flying, Shawls are being whipped and some women are dancing like men. I was really dissapointed when the mother of one dancer took a blanket out honor her daughter. Unfortunatly, the daughter had to stay and dance on the blanket for most of the rest of the song.

      Where did the grace go in ladies fancy?

      I know that there are those of you who still act like a lady, but why do the ones who don't walk home with the cash?
      blame it on casino pow-wows with their huge payouts! :P jk....


      it's the politics of powwows it happens. Just enjoy watching the graceful dancers and appreciate that there are still a few out there!! or come 2 oglala nations last year and watch us jam :P just kidding... but seriously! We had Ramona Roach, Grace Red Shirt-Tyon, and Cody High Elk in sr. womens this year!! it was AWESOME

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      ps. i'm still the greatest~n i'm prettylol

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Dakota-GiftedGal View Post
        So went to the pow wow on the weekend, I had a good time and i did get to watch some of my family dance. But most of all, I got to watch my sister dance fancy shawl.

        As, I'm sitting watching her competitions, I noticed that the grace had gone from ladies fancy. Skirts are flying, Shawls are being whipped and some women are dancing like men. I was really dissapointed when the mother of one dancer took a blanket out honor her daughter. Unfortunatly, the daughter had to stay and dance on the blanket for most of the rest of the song.

        Where did the grace go in ladies fancy?

        I know that there are those of you who still act like a lady, but why do the ones who don't walk home with the cash?
        I was waiting for someone to say something about that but I didn't think people realized that there was a difference in just kicking real high and throwing your fringe around real fast. ha ha Yes, there is a difference and I haven't seen anyone with style and grace at all. At the last wacipi we attended one of the fancy shawl dancers was whipping her fringe around so bad it kept hitting her in the face (mind you, she was hitting her own self) It takes a lot of work to make fancy shawl look easy and I don't think a lot of dancers realize the energy involved in making it "Look easy" and that also includes having your own "style" not copying or having a really nice outfit to cover up what you can't figure out how to do. I wouldn't want to discourage anyone from dancing but I heard on the radio a woman who spoke about traditions and how things are being forgotten or not done anymore. The fancy shawl category is relatively "new" being started (and I'm not going to say when cause people will have different opinions on that too, cause everyone wants to be the "first")but it evolved and it is based on traditional dance steps and there is not a lot you can do to change the "traditional dance steps" that we Native American people have, there is just no way to change that part. So variations on that is what we're doing and that is where your own style comes in and so I say "keep on dancing" and you're representing our people all the time so you can make it look easy but it takes work and I'm always proud of the stamina and energy that our people have and will continue to show - I would say if you don't know how to do something ask someone who does know. If you see someone who is doing it with grace-check them out.
        Fancy shawl dancing was a graceful way of dancing and needs to be revived that way again. There....

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        • #5
          My opinion varies from those previosly posted. I was't around when womens fancy started but I was told it came from a mans dance. Women (and I personally know some) wore and danced fancy bustle, and wanted their own dance. Maybe they're paying homage to old style fancy. And it is called FANCY, not graceful. Now in that being said I like both styles. I have a friend who dances very gracefully, like she barely touches the ground, I love to watch her. Her sister dances hard, whips and works the shawl, and I love her style and would have a very hard time judging the two, but would probably give it to whom ever worked their shawl the most, it wouldn't necessarily have to be graceful. I'm ok with fancy evolving and getting faster, brighter, more sparklie, I prefer it happen in this category and not tradish or jingle.

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          • #6
            I'm older and did fancy shawl back in the late 70's. Now, my 12-year old daughter is starting and I haven't the heart to tell her that I don't like the new style of dancing. I made her regalia in the style of today, but can't help but think about my own old regalia made for me when I was in 2nd grade. There was a certain specialness to it that today's shiny materials and such don't have. I liked how we girls used to hold our arms more akimbo less straight out in the air. That put the emphasis on the perfect footwork and the neatness of it. I'm proud she wants to do it because I did it, but still it is a very different thing. When I did a documentary on my reservation in South Dakota during the 1990's the old people used to laugh when I told them I did that. They said the old men would wave their hands in front of their noses when the girls first started doing it. It was not considered proper. Traditionally, women stood around and circled the dance floor, holding it like the womb.
            Last edited by Bahesmama; 02-01-2013, 02:01 AM.

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            • #7
              Haha I'm only 19 so even though Fancy dancing is a newer dance I still wasn't engaged in the older style growing up, although I think there's a slight revival of the older style in some pow wows I go to recently.. unfortunately for me, none of my friends or teachers know/have taught me the old style. :( But I'd love to learn. Anyway, I can think of a few dancers who have skirts that fly WAY up that I've seen over here on the west coast,and I think that is a no-no but I personally like the way some people can pull-off the way they move their shawls. I think people must not forget that with how competitive dancing has gotten a lot of girls are trying new ways to stand out and each dancer has their own style. Personally, I still think a lot of these girls can be graceful too :) some no, but some still do pull it off.

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