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    I was just wondering if any of you have a problem with people of mixed blood dancing. Me and my friend are both part black and we both dance (not competitions but for fun). Now she's going to stop because one of our full Indian friends told her she shouldn't dance because she's mixed. I'm trying to get her to continue because it's a part of her but now she feels like everyone hates her for dancing. I know I can't give it up because it's something I luv soo much. When I hear the music I just want to get out and dance forever. Please tell me your thoughts on this so I can see which one of us is right.
    ~~Proud to be Native and Black~~

  • #2
    Do you guys(gals) have any indian blood at all?

    Who is this person that tells you you shouldn't dance? Is she older, your age,your tribe? Have you known her long?

    I ask these questions so that I can Phrae my response as accurate as possible.
    Before you attempt to beat the odds, make sure you can survive the odds beating you!

    Why do some people bother breathing when you know their brain isn't getting the oxygen?

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    • #3
      I'm half cherokee. I don't know how much my friend has in her but I know that it's less than half. The girl who told us this is Lumbee.
      ~~Proud to be Native and Black~~

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      • #4
        My family has always told me it was okay but now i'm guessing it's not. I have seen other mixed people from NC dance. Just give me any help u can, real answers, not sugar coated.
        ~~Proud to be Native and Black~~

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        • #5
          What I am about to say may stir up a bunch of stink, but I know there are people out there who will read this and feel the same and not say anything.

          Here I go......

          Unless you are not following pow-wow protocol, such as... in appropriate outfit, rude behavior, extremely disrespectufl to yourself and the pow-wow, No One person one the pow-wow circuit can tell you that you shouldn't be dancing, no matter what color you are or what race you are!! As long as you are respectful, follow the proper ways ( by this I mean things such as etiquette) then you have as much right to dance as the Blue-Eyed Blonde from Georgia who's Great-Great Grandmother was a Cherokee Princess!
          Being part black should not even be an issue.
          I don't know you or how you are at pow-wows, but you not being able to dance because you are part black is like telling an indian they can't leave the rez because they are indian.

          If you are unsure if you are dancing the right way or behaving the right way, go to a big pow-wow and just stay in your seat except for your dance and watch older fancy shawl dancers. I think every girl here will tell you that that is how they learned what they know. You watch and learn. Pay attention to how they are dressed. How there skirts or dresses are made. How much of their body is covered. How they dance. How they carry themselves.
          This is how you learn. No video can teach you these things.

          Most important, you remember how this makes you feel. That way when you get older and you see that little girl sitting on the side unsure, you will know why it's important to carry yourself in a good way and to try to nice to everyone you meet!

          Don't let people tell you who are and what you can't do! Find out for yourself. Next time this person says this to you, Tell them " Well thanks for mentioning that to me, I'll keep it in mind".
          Then when dance, just let it go and feel good!
          Before you attempt to beat the odds, make sure you can survive the odds beating you!

          Why do some people bother breathing when you know their brain isn't getting the oxygen?

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          • #6
            Originally posted by FancyStar
            Unless you are not following pow-wow protocol, such as... in appropriate outfit, rude behavior, extremely disrespectufl to yourself and the pow-wow, No One person one the pow-wow circuit can tell you that you shouldn't be dancing, no matter what color you are or what race you are!! As long as you are respectful, follow the proper ways ( by this I mean things such as etiquette) . . .

            Good advice fancy star.

            This dance was started as "a part of the Indian women's movement" for them to become more involved in the powwow. It is for all Indian women - no matter if you're full OR mixed blood.

            "There is no legend or mysticism to it." It was started approximately 35 years ago by real people who are still living today.

            "If anyone has the right to say who should and shouldn't be allowed to dance - it should come from the Indian women who originated the women's fancy shawl dance."

            No disrespect to the Lumbees, but this is NOT their dance.
            Powwows will continue to evolve in many directions. It is inevitable.

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            • #7
              Thank you so much for that. That's the way I feel about it too. My friend won't even dance anymore because the girl told her she shouldn't. I will definitely show her what you said.
              ~~Proud to be Native and Black~~

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              • #8
                Great advice ladies!! If you are native and show respect for your dance then no one should tell you not to dance! Hmmm.... maybe that girl was just jealous! Aye!

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                • #9
                  Babigurl,
                  All of the people who has posted is 100% correct. But please listen to my experiences.

                  I get a lot of crap because I'm fair-skinned, anglo lookin', mixed blood ndn. I'm also the lightest "skin" in my family. I admit, the amount of crap I receive is becoming less with each passing year, but the longer your on the dance sceen, the better people get to know you, and the less ka-ka you have to deal with.

                  One of the local casinos had a big competition pow wow this year. It was one of the toughest pow wow's I've been to lately because I kept getting comments from non-ndn people. I was telling my family about the latest encounter when one of my auntie's grabbed my hand, looked straight in my eyes and said, "Don't let anyone tell you that you cannot dance. Women have been told, for a long time, that we cannot dance. But we have every right to be in this arena now. You go out there and dance." Now granted, this was done by non-natives, but native people can be just as crule as non-natives.

                  I can on both hands how many times I've been "carded" at competiton pow-wows, count all of my family's hands/feet for the dirty looks by other darker "pow wow dance trail going for the casino money" dancers, and the sterotypical ndn thoughts by my college classmates and work employees.

                  Everyone, think about this and how you treat other people; dancers, drummers, pow wow families, everyone else around you. I might even be talking about you and you do not realize it. But it sucks! I'm not the greatest dancer, but I'm around all of you. I may not be from a "dancin' family," but I do my best to pass my traditions down to the next generation (in my case, my daughters and nieces). Society is very closed-minded. Both native and non. Remember protocol, know your family history (so you can stick up for yourselves when people give you crap), go out there and dance your heart out. :o
                  snaf, snarf!

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                  • #10
                    I agree with Who Me, a Lumbee person does not have the right to tell you not to dance Fancy just because you are half Native.

                    As it has been mentionned, as long as you are respecting the protocol then there shouldn't be a problem. See, I have no problem with "mixed bloods" dancing; what I (and I am sure most people) find offensive is chicks walking around with skirts up to their thighs and blatant ignorance to our traditions. Read: Hokies.

                    So as long as you ain't rockin the flouro-feathers and pleather knee-high moccosins; you're straight in my books.
                    Got percap?

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                    • #11
                      yeah what they all said . Come on what happend to ppl helpin ppl ? Do it with respect an dance from your heart . An just put the other person on face to face ignore.:D
                      I use to dance when I was younger , but now since an accident I am not able to go around more than once ...hey I still give it a good try but ya know its all about respect an joining in the circle in a good way . If we stop helping an caring then what are we?:D
                      Better known an loved as Men~Nie Turtles !
                      Life is what you make it. Becareful what you give . You just might get it back!

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                      • #12
                        Now she's going to stop because one of our full Indian friends told her she shouldn't dance because she's mixed.
                        The girl who told us this is Lumbee.
                        Anybody else think this is the funniest thing you've ever read? Dang, aren't ALL Lumbees mixed? Sounds like a case of the pot calling the kettle mixed.....

                        Tell your friend to get back at it..... this Lumbee was probably gettin' tore up by your friend's moves and got all somehow and just lashed out with some trifflin' B.S.

                        Dang... some people's kids......
                        Functionless art is simply tolerated vandalism.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by lilfancygrl
                          Babigurl,
                          All of the people who has posted is 100% correct. But please listen to my experiences.

                          I get a lot of crap because I'm fair-skinned, anglo lookin', mixed blood ndn. I'm also the lightest "skin" in my family. I admit, the amount of crap I receive is becoming less with each passing year, but the longer your on the dance sceen, the better people get to know you, and the less ka-ka you have to deal with.

                          One of the local casinos had a big competition pow wow this year. It was one of the toughest pow wow's I've been to lately because I kept getting comments from non-ndn people. I was telling my family about the latest encounter when one of my auntie's grabbed my hand, looked straight in my eyes and said, "Don't let anyone tell you that you cannot dance. Women have been told, for a long time, that we cannot dance. But we have every right to be in this arena now. You go out there and dance." Now granted, this was done by non-natives, but native people can be just as crule as non-natives.

                          I can on both hands how many times I've been "carded" at competiton pow-wows, count all of my family's hands/feet for the dirty looks by other darker "pow wow dance trail going for the casino money" dancers, and the sterotypical ndn thoughts by my college classmates and work employees.

                          Everyone, think about this and how you treat other people; dancers, drummers, pow wow families, everyone else around you. I might even be talking about you and you do not realize it. But it sucks! I'm not the greatest dancer, but I'm around all of you. I may not be from a "dancin' family," but I do my best to pass my traditions down to the next generation (in my case, my daughters and nieces). Society is very closed-minded. Both native and non. Remember protocol, know your family history (so you can stick up for yourselves when people give you crap), go out there and dance your heart out. :o
                          Amen!:D

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                          • #14
                            mixed blood...

                            I've posted the same sentiment in regard to other threads, but I feel the need to echo it here. I am thrilled by the replies thus far and just want to put in my two cents.........My grandmother on my father's
                            side is Cherokee and my great-grandfather on my Mother's side is Czech (but was German by birthplace)...this is the best of what I know. I was not raised in either way...and some people have a problem with this. I was raised by my mother's grandparents who did their best to give my brother and I a good home. I have always been interested in both parts of my ancestry. It was not until I began highschool that I began to struggle with who I was. The truth is you are who you are and you can't change to what family you were born. I've researched both sides of my family and learned what I can. While I was in highschool I made a couple of friends who were also "mixed-blood" but both had pretty strong Cherokee roots (grandmother and great...). I was introduced to the local powwow scene and haven't left since. All I know is that since I started dancing and celebrating within the dance circuit, I haven't felt more at peace with who I am. I can't help how "pure" I am....and I know some people say that it is crap to say that you know in your heart...but I'm sorry, unless you are a "mixed-blood" you probably won't understand that it is just something that you know, that feels right. I'm not
                            going to comment about white people dancing, but as far as "mixed-blood" or "pure" goes...keep on dancing, be proud and honor your family and your heritage.
                            "This is not a black and white world...in order to survive the colors must be swirled"
                            -LIVE

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                            • #15
                              Butterflypulse, I understand what you are saying. I grew up around my Cherokee grandmother but she never really pushed the culture on me. A couple of years ago I lived with her for a few months and she taught me so much. Now my friends and the Native American club at my school have put me on the pow wow scene and I love it. I am ready to start dancing more often. Just last night me and my friend stayed up until 2 in the morning working on a new regalia for me. I am soo excited!!! Thanks for all the replies.
                              ~~Proud to be Native and Black~~

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