How do you make a rosette?

[powwowdancer7]

Im new to beading and would like to make my own rosettes for my neck, back, and arm bustles and my headband. I would like to use the one needle original approach. Any help would be much appreciated. Thank you.

[rodond]

i use a wax cup bottom[big gulp cup] cut it even with the bottom of the cup leaving the rim on the bottom.draw your pattern on the cup start beading in the center with a single bead then start beading out in circles lay two or 3 bead at a time go down and come back up going throgh the last bead and lay down the next 3 repeating the circle then start on the next row beading out to you get the size you want cut the edge up to the beadwork leaving a little bit i glue a leather back to the bottom with either a shoe string lace in it or barrete clip depending on how i use it then edge bead it

[sherryh1014]

rosette

I'm also making my first rosette. the trouble i am having is the pattern is wanting to twist. what is a good way to keep things lined up. I am beading on duck cloth backed with pellon and using 11/o czechs. What is a good bead to use ,czech, dyma-mite,ect ? tks

[BillNoble]

Another way....

Another way to make rosettes is to get one of those embroidery hoops that stretches fabric (most places that carry sewing stuff have em)
Also, white fabric...similar to the cup bottom idea (which is excellent by the way, never thought about that)
On your fabric, you need to draw out your design...if your making many, you will want a template for the circle/design so they all come out similar (they will be close, but not perfect, just as it should be if they're done by hand..you can tell a rosette made by a machined process and one made by hand...hand made are so much more beautiful)
You can use any type or size bead you are comfortable with...my preferences might not be yours and also whats available to you for this project.
You will want to use a strong thread, and similar to any beaded project you will need patience, this is a long time till done thing (especially your first one you try to make)
After you have your design drawn out, put the fabric in the the stretcher. and make sure you have the fabric pulled tight.
((Oh, by the way, any fabric will do, old jean material is real nice to work with, and really holds together well.) makes for a heavy feeling rosette as well)
START your first bead in the exact center of your design, and anchor it well so it doesnt move on you, so going through this bead a few times with the thread is a good idea.
Once you have that done, you go to the outside edge of the bead, and start your first round with 2 beads.
Bring your thread through, go through the second bead with your thread, add two bead, sew down again, come bach through.

So, each time you sew down two beads, when you bring your needle through the fabric, it will be between the two beads, then you will pull the needle through the second bead you had sewn down..pull thread through, place two more beads on your thread, and repeat
( really wish I had pictures to show you)

Expect as someone pointed out to have problems with this , in some ways. Sometimes if you pull too tightly, the fabric will want to twist. The easiest way away from that is to use one of the hoops I mentioned above.

FINISHING the rosette using this method...leave a small amount of fabric around your design, like a quarter inch...fold back and under and sew into place, then with a nice piece of deer hide to back it with. you may glue it, or sew it
GLUE (like elmers white glue) will stiffen up the rosette, and make it sturdy.
SEWING will leave the rosette flexible, and can be used in places that you want to remain softer (say like the back of a jacket or vest.
IF you choose to sew the rosette backing, remember 2 important things..much like the construction of the rosette, you will want to sew the center down first, and work your way out in a circular way, and be careful you dont displace or break your threadwork in your rosette while sewing...rushing this process will do bad things to your work.
I hope this helps.

[walela49]

I just bumped my thread that has some rosette patterns in it....you might find them helpful!

http://www.powwows.com/gathering/beadwork/26044-free-rosette-graph-paper.html

[rodond]

try a smaller bead i do rosettes in 13 it make it easier to line up a pattern and you can get more detailed. i always glue the back of the ones i make it locks the treads to the back in case you have a tread break you don't loose but that one thread.haven't had much luck with cloth i find it stretch to much for me and pucker up when taken out of the hop

[wyo_rose]

No offense, BillNoble, but I can't in good faith suggest beading of fabric stretched in a hoop. When you take it off the hoop, it's gonna bunch up, however slightly.

Beading on a wax cup bottom sounds interesting, but I've never tried it. I think it would be too easy to pull your stitches out.

I like to layer white paper, baby lap pad or buckskin or pellon, backed with brown paper bag. Baste all the layers together.

Before you start, make some fold in the white paper to mark quadrants for your design. Fold in half, make a sharp crease. Unfold and fold the other way, lining up the first fold line and make another crease. Unfold and fold in half again, lining up the other two folds. Repeat and you have 8 "quadrants". If it's a larger design, you can make 16 sections.

If you use fabric, I like to bead until the last 3 rows. Trim into a circle shape with an EXACT 3 bead width left. cover the edge with bias tape and baste into place. Bead over the bias tape. You'll have just enough "edge" to edge bead on.

[tayoonee]

Wish I could comment on this one...but I'm still trying to figure out a pattern for my 1st one....I've drawn a blank for the last 2 weeks......
I'm in a slump...I've finished my son's moc and now...I need to get started on my daughters' hair ties, choker and headband....
Not sure why I posted a reply...just bored i guess.

[chazziff]

you dont necessary have to go in the circular beading pattern for a rosette ....

as for bunching and what not ... its all about the tension in your hands. some ppl can bead on some material and have it come out all smooth ... someone else on the same material ... looks like it was runover LOL. pulling the thread too tight will make it look horrible ... too loose ... horrible. practice makes perfect

[Czechy]

If you are doing a rosette with a design and a separate background like the kind chaziff has shown, then you will want to bead from the outside edge inward toward the center. That is, after you have done your design element first. If your rosette will be made with the design and background beaded at the same time, then its easier to start from the middle and work out. Hope that makes sense....

Bunching of the work comes from thread pulled too tight, from crowding of beads by placing rows too close together, and by wimpy base material or a combination of these. Bead on something fairly stiff. I like a couple layers of Pellon or an iron-on stabilizer on top of stiff felt. I avoid cloth since any cut edges will fray.

The first 2 or 3 rows are the hardest. Take smaller stitches and keep track of where you are. It may help to put a large bead, a metal spot or a rhinestone in the center and bead around that.

[powwowdancer7]

Thank you everyone. I think I understand how to make them now. Just a little worried about getting the tension right.

[khalua]

seed beads

what size would the regular seed beads be? and how do you know how many to fit in the spaces? the paper i've been using is circles.

how do you advoid the problem of patterns "spinning/twisting"

if you look at my pics you'll see i have triangles and the increases cause the triangles to "fall behind" but i've managed to fix it by glueing it onto cardboard... i free hand mine i don't bead onto any fabric then glue on to cardboard then sew leather via beading edging.

[rodond]

seed beads come in different sizes . it best too buy from a dealer either mail order[ crazy crow nor bay etc] or at a powwow that sells beads by the hank they are better beads more uniform i use size 11/12 for lazy stitch or loom work and 13and smaller for rosette and peyote stitch. draw your pattern on what your beading on then bead to your pattern you may have to drop or add a bead to get things to fit that why it best to bead with the smaller beads and you can get more detailed in a smaller space

[swjingle]

you dont necessary have to go in the circular beading pattern for a rosette ....

as for bunching and what not ... its all about the tension in your hands. some ppl can bead on some material and have it come out all smooth ... someone else on the same material ... looks like it was runover LOL. pulling the thread too tight will make it look horrible ... too loose ... horrible. practice makes perfect

what kind of beads are these on your rosettes?

[Jakesresort]

Canvas

I like to use canvas....its a harder surface and the beads seem to stay where I put them...LOL. It is much easier to work on and it is easy to put the needle though. Its a good surface for beginners.