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  • #31
    well if you are going to make boxes, make sure that you soak the birch bark in hot water so that it gets soft and bends easily, if not it will rip on you. as for the quills I found out this year that the best stain is with the quills intact, if you cut the ends off the might get a better stain but they collapse on you. I have so far this year picked up 23 porkies and got a lot of quills. Keep the guard hair too, that is what they use for the roaches. Keep the claws for jewellery!!!
    Listen to my heart, not just my mouth! The most powerfull thing we can do is,,,share,,, if we don't it dies with us.

    It is the year of the bear, I am sharpening my claws and will no longer tollerate harrassment.

    Born in Winnipeg raised in the Pikwakanagan, Deutschland was never home! Army brat that had no choice in a parents duties to home and country. I Too Serve our flag and work for the uniform.
    Stand behind our troops or stand IN FRONT of them.

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    • #32
      I only done 1 piece with quill. I had'nt picked up any after that I HOPE you can teach me how to do it without stressing lol, what size quills? thanks Sugar






      "If I had to explain, you would'nt understand"

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      • #33
        [QUOTE=sugarcrm]I only done 1 piece with quill. I had'nt picked up any after that I HOPE you can teach me how to do it without stressing lol, what size quills? thanks Sugar
        Hey There,,,the first thing is get quills that are all the same size and all the same lenght, just like beading you want to stay with the same size, so if you get a porky sort the quills before you even think of your next project. Quills are worth their weight in gold so to speak. Just price them. They sell for about 18.- for a hundred quills. I now ship them out in bags of about 2500 at a time for friends.
        Once you have the quills sorted try and get a bunch that are the same size as a wooden tooth pick, leave the ends on for dying. After dying with ends on the quill doesn't collapse. The bigger quills without ends shrivel after dying,,,opps!!! The quills can be used on jewelery like regular beads. On clothing the ends can be folded under and hidden. On birch bark if you want to do it that way, draw a pattern on the piece and with a sewing needle that is a bit bigger than the quill punch holesat the edge of the pattern and stick the quills throughfrom both ends, then fold over and cut of the excess. Once you have the pattern done, just add the same shape of birch bark backing and that will hide the tips. Just tell me what you are missing and I will be glad to help.

        By the way I am about to start looking for road kill porkies again!!!
        If you need more details get in touch with me!!
        Listen to my heart, not just my mouth! The most powerfull thing we can do is,,,share,,, if we don't it dies with us.

        It is the year of the bear, I am sharpening my claws and will no longer tollerate harrassment.

        Born in Winnipeg raised in the Pikwakanagan, Deutschland was never home! Army brat that had no choice in a parents duties to home and country. I Too Serve our flag and work for the uniform.
        Stand behind our troops or stand IN FRONT of them.

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        • #34
          hey, I'm alway hurtin' for quills. lemme know how much and we'll talk.
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          • #35
            Quills

            Howdy, DeusExMachina!!!
            My bags of quills are on average in the thousands of quills in a bag that is 10 by 12 and filled to the hilt. I only charge $40.- a bag plus the shipping. I already am in the process of bagging my cleaned quills again. Oh, I never use chemicals to clean them, so the natural finish remains. I take all the hair out toooooooo.
            E-mail me if you are serious on buying, otherwise they will go out west again to my big buyer.
            Listen to my heart, not just my mouth! The most powerfull thing we can do is,,,share,,, if we don't it dies with us.

            It is the year of the bear, I am sharpening my claws and will no longer tollerate harrassment.

            Born in Winnipeg raised in the Pikwakanagan, Deutschland was never home! Army brat that had no choice in a parents duties to home and country. I Too Serve our flag and work for the uniform.
            Stand behind our troops or stand IN FRONT of them.

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            • #36
              I want to learn....

              This is a good thread. I always wanted to learn Quilling. Maybe after my current bead project.. I'll try to quill.
              It's How We're All Connected !!!

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              • #37
                obtaining and dying quills

                The best source for quills is to pluck them yourself. Most of what you get from trading companies is unusable. I just bought 10 hides from ebay. I have also bought one from Matoska trading but it was much more expensive than ebay. The best way to remove quills from a hide is to soak it in an old ice chest for a couple of days. Use plain water with a little Dawn dish washing soap to cut down the oiliness. It can get quite nasty but it works the best and fastest.

                I let the quills air dry and when I'm ready to use them I seperate and discard the underbody hair. Wash the quills in warm water and Dawn dish washing soap. You need to remove the oily quality of the quills for them to dye properly. Rinse well and allow to dry. To dye the quills, I use a pot on the stovetop. I find that they dye best when the dye solution temperature is just below boiling. If you start to see bubbles reduce the heat. Boiling the quills will damage them.

                Dye your quills a shade darker than you need then rinse them with cool water. Allow to dry before using. Also, dye many more than you think you'll need. You'll end up discarding a bunch that you thought you would use and matching dye lots is next to impossible.

                Hope this helps.
                Ron

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                • #38
                  quillwork

                  Sekoh exellent thread
                  i started quillwork a long time ago ..had many problems and never quite mastered it ....i keep going back to it though. i seen a guy use a small piece of a wooden dowel to roll the quill flat.so he didnt have that line in the middle of the quill. I tried to do it that way but had trouble with them poping the air out..i guess i didnt pay enough attention..please keep posting .Onen
                  In Search of the Elusive Government Cheese

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                  • #39
                    Hey, I got a bag full of quills sent to me, they are so well dyed in stripes and solids, the lady that does them wants to sell them. If anyone is interested I can send pics via the regular email and send you here address and the pics at the same time too.
                    Listen to my heart, not just my mouth! The most powerfull thing we can do is,,,share,,, if we don't it dies with us.

                    It is the year of the bear, I am sharpening my claws and will no longer tollerate harrassment.

                    Born in Winnipeg raised in the Pikwakanagan, Deutschland was never home! Army brat that had no choice in a parents duties to home and country. I Too Serve our flag and work for the uniform.
                    Stand behind our troops or stand IN FRONT of them.

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                    • #40
                      Your probably going to think I'm crazy for this...... OH Yeah I am. Believe it or not I get my quills from LIVE porkies. It's a lot easier than plucking them and when you get them they are already sorted out in the various sizes. My wife got a kick out of seeing me do it the first time. It's quite the rush. Especially when they start swinging their tail at you. I have been lucky enough to not get stuck in the leg by them. You don't get a whole lot but the ones you do get are not broken and like I said all seperated from the smallest at the tail all the way up to the longest in the middle of the back.
                      "Tell me friend, you who dwells in the dark and the deep, How may I venture unafraid, into the dark world of half death"

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by warhoop
                        My wife got a kick out of seeing me do it the first time. It's quite the rush. Especially when they start swinging their tail at you.

                        Be sure to have your wife film it. There may be some money to be made on "America's Funniest Home Videos". *LOL*

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                        • #42
                          Keep it up ,,, and yes, I want to see the video!!!
                          I still prefer picking up the quills with the long doctors forceps, I get about 20 at a time.
                          I send them out to Vancouver BC and there they get converted to colourful beads and the lady sells them without a problem.
                          She makes solid colours and then stripes, the more stripes of varying colours the more they cost. But she is incredible. This way I am passing on quills to her and she does the work that gives her pride, there is no one else that I know of that does so much detailed work on a single quill and then copies that by a hundred at a time. some quills she told me take nearly 10 hours to complete with a blend of colours.
                          Anyone wanting these can email me and I will be glad to set you up with her address. Then she can send pics and prices.
                          Listen to my heart, not just my mouth! The most powerfull thing we can do is,,,share,,, if we don't it dies with us.

                          It is the year of the bear, I am sharpening my claws and will no longer tollerate harrassment.

                          Born in Winnipeg raised in the Pikwakanagan, Deutschland was never home! Army brat that had no choice in a parents duties to home and country. I Too Serve our flag and work for the uniform.
                          Stand behind our troops or stand IN FRONT of them.

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by Pare Bowlegs
                            I don't know if this picture will show up or not. Its a quilled Seminole bag that was given by a Chief to a Sgt(?)Mendenhall during/after the Revolutionary War.

                            Pare-
                            Hi, I don't usually come over here, but I saw this. Mendenhal is my husband's relatives!
                            "Riches from the heart can not be stolen."

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                            • #44
                              It is now official, her quills have been bought by a wholesaler and ,,yes for jewellery, so if you want in on quills that take up to six hours each to dye in miniature stripes and bands, got a sample passed to me and sold if for her on the first showing. Her prices are still toooooo cheap considering the labour of love involved with each indiviual quill.
                              Listen to my heart, not just my mouth! The most powerfull thing we can do is,,,share,,, if we don't it dies with us.

                              It is the year of the bear, I am sharpening my claws and will no longer tollerate harrassment.

                              Born in Winnipeg raised in the Pikwakanagan, Deutschland was never home! Army brat that had no choice in a parents duties to home and country. I Too Serve our flag and work for the uniform.
                              Stand behind our troops or stand IN FRONT of them.

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                              • #45
                                there is some step by step guides on nativetech.org (org, com?) but its pretty good on how to do zig zag stitch and its shows pictures on the steps to give an idea..only thing it doesnt have anything on looming quills...it does have illustration on how to wrap quills....its rather incomplete but its a excellent source for those who are like me who have to see it in order to do it sort of deal..with that website i taught my ma how to wrap she taught me the stitches (techniques involveing quillwork)..it even has a Q and A forum ...like i remember there was a question on dyeing quills its a good one.. it also has a quiz thing on how well you know your dyes...yall should check it out

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