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  • #16
    Ok, Mr. Analyzer....Precosia/Ornela-same beads. The official brand name is Precosia Ornela Czech glass seed beads. The other names, are brand names, too-Toho, Delica, etc.. As for the 3 cut-Charlotte thing, according to Wikipedia-and most beaders I know it's this:
    "Charlotte cuts are most often available as size 15° or 13° seed beads that have part of the surface of the bead cut (or "faceted") to produce more shine. Size 11° Charlottes are also available but harder to find. Charlotte is specifically a term for single faceted beads but can also be used when 2 or 3 facets are added to the bead to add more sparkle. Charlottes with 2 or 3 cuts to the surface are also known as "two-cut" or "three cut" beads but "charlotte" is the generally accepted term for this group of seed beads, though some choose to use the term more specifically for beads with one cut surface, preferring "two-cut" or "three-cut" to be used for the other variations."
    A few years ago, one of the beading magazines-Beadwork, I think- had an article oh how seed beads are made. The author was Japanese and toured the Toho and Miyuki factories. It was a pretty neat read. I looked for the link to it, but can't find it now. (: Any more questions? I don't have "small bead addict" under my name for nuthin'. LOL!
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    • #17
      Originally posted by Joe's Dad View Post
      Now see...here's my issue. You look at the colors...and then they bombard you with all these crazy names!!! hahaaaa
      In the course of my job, I have to formulate colors for the plastics in some of the lenses I design. We frequently have color pandemonium. So, last summer R&D was called on the develop a set of unique names for each color formulation. Being an uber-nerd, the head of R&D started with buying a set of Pantone chips and doing an internet search on the history of color names. We have nothing on the Victorians. They had some really -- uh -- interesting names:

      Dead Spaniard -- a bluish grey
      Gooseturd -- a greenish gray
      Popinjay -- a bluish green

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      • #18


        Stellar Rosette

        Submitted by Michele Rose

        This traditional rosette is painstakingly done with teeny tiny antique Italian seed beads and a double needle method. The detail that can be achieved with these micro seed beads and this technique is amazing.
        Michele Rose 1997

        (Found this on Harlequin Bead site)
        Seed Beads | Czech and Japanese Miyuki and Toho Glass Seed Beads | Harlequin Beads and Jewelry
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        • #19
          Originally posted by subeeds View Post
          Ok, Mr. Analyzer....Precosia/Ornela-same beads. The official brand name is Precosia Ornela Czech glass seed beads. The other names, are brand names, too-Toho, Delica, etc.. As for the 3 cut-Charlotte thing, according to Wikipedia-and most beaders I know it's this:
          "Charlotte cuts are most often available as size 15° or 13° seed beads that have part of the surface of the bead cut (or "faceted") to produce more shine. Size 11° Charlottes are also available but harder to find. Charlotte is specifically a term for single faceted beads but can also be used when 2 or 3 facets are added to the bead to add more sparkle. Charlottes with 2 or 3 cuts to the surface are also known as "two-cut" or "three cut" beads but "charlotte" is the generally accepted term for this group of seed beads, though some choose to use the term more specifically for beads with one cut surface, preferring "two-cut" or "three-cut" to be used for the other variations."
          A few years ago, one of the beading magazines-Beadwork, I think- had an article oh how seed beads are made. The author was Japanese and toured the Toho and Miyuki factories. It was a pretty neat read. I looked for the link to it, but can't find it now. (: Any more questions? I don't have "small bead addict" under my name for nuthin'. LOL!
          So 3-cut is blingier than 2-cut which is blingier than True Cut? LOL I looked at 11/0 3-cut from one company and it only showed black. Is there a company that has a bigger choice? Is black blingy at night?

          Is there much difference in 10/0 and 11/0?

          Originally posted by OLChemist View Post
          In the course of my job, I have to formulate colors for the plastics in some of the lenses I design. We frequently have color pandemonium. So, last summer R&D was called on the develop a set of unique names for each color formulation. Being an uber-nerd, the head of R&D started with buying a set of Pantone chips and doing an internet search on the history of color names. We have nothing on the Victorians. They had some really -- uh -- interesting names:

          Dead Spaniard -- a bluish grey
          Gooseturd -- a greenish gray
          Popinjay -- a bluish green
          Do these colors come in 3-cut? hahaaaa


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          • #20
            True cut has one facet-the rest whatever the number is. So yes, they would be blingier than true cuts. I'm partial to 3 cuts, especially in the 13s. There are also hex beads-kind of like short bugle beads-with facets. Those really sparkle. Try looking at Beadcats (perfect place for you), Matoska Trading Company and Crazy Crow. I don't think 10's are all that much bigger than 11's. I've got some, and can't tell that much difference.

            I have some of those Dead Spaniard beads-only they went a little more PC and called them Cadet Blue. :)
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            • #21
              Baker Bay Beads has a great variety of colors in Charlotte 11's for anyone looking for them.

              bakerbaybeads.com

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              • #22
                Hmm...I always think of Charlottes as the seedy bead type. And 3 cuts as the uneven, blingy type.
                ...it is what it is...

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                • #23
                  I have used and still use tri-cuts and the other beads. I have switched to miyuki delicas the past couple years on all my bead work other than i ask if the want anything diffferent from what i use. I love the way the delicas shine different and the uniformity of the bead. there's hasn't been any complaints so far from what i have done !!

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by myliv View Post
                    I have used and still use tri-cuts and the other beads. I have switched to miyuki delicas the past couple years on all my bead work other than i ask if the want anything diffferent from what i use. I love the way the delicas shine different and the uniformity of the bead. there's hasn't been any complaints so far from what i have done !!
                    Ended up getting 3-cuts, transparents and opaques. All Czechs. All Precosia. Had someone one here makes some mocs and cuffs. I'm working with them right now. Not a lot of culls.

                    Thanks for the post! Can you show some of your work?


                    Why must I feel like that..why must I chase the cat?


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                    • #25
                      ahh likes them round ones wit the holes in em !
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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by wardancer View Post
                        ahh likes them round ones wit the holes in em !
                        Not to be confused with the ones with round holes!


                        Why must I feel like that..why must I chase the cat?


                        "When I was young man I did some dumb things and the elders would talk to me. Sometimes I listened. Time went by and as I looked around...I was the elder".

                        Mr. Rossie Freeman

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                        • #27
                          I know this is an older thread, but I wanted to share that, for those who don't know, Baker Bay Beads has a really big selection of 15 hex beads. I hadn't noticed them on other sites so much but Baker Bay has several pages of colors.

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