Should songs be sold?

[Ntvmanness]

Selling of your peoples songs is not justified. Period.

[Mato Winyan]

[Mato Winyan]

Which is worse..

the one sharing these songs so they can be sold...

the one selling them....

the one buying them.....?

Just wondering if there are any thoughts on these.

[Tess Lone Elk]

Not only are these songs prayers, and not only do most of these songs belong to certain families, but these songs were a gift from the Creator and how dare some try to profit from this. My vote: NO! They MUST be learned and handed down, if they are not, then their time of use is no more and so be it.

zeph,
why confused look...
thats the way i was taught that its okay for one drum to trade song with another but only certain songs...thats what i mean in a tradish manner...its not okay to record certain songs and its not okay to make money off of certain songs...personal gain thats what i call it when you make money off of songs..

[zeph]

songs should be treated in a tradish manner not bought and sold ..

[rkbtmeyb]

to be told not sold

absolutely nope...people who sell them dont have much respect
for tradition...now traded from one drum to the other is great but on cd/cassette no way cuz yar still making money off the songs...
songs should be treated in a tradish manner not bought and sold ..

[_RoBbY_]

:Chatter

I'd have to say I'm in the same boat as the Senica Beauty... lol - I'd have to do one hell-of-a-sweat fit it's "wrong" to buy, sell, trade, or give away recordings of Peyote, Sundance, Inipi, and other mainly tribal religious music...

I also have a lot of stuff that is American Indian Church hymns. A lot of the 5 Nations and others have doen Christian renditions of songs, or made Christian based Native American styled songs.

I guess it would be a question of what religion, or faith is "right?"

- Robby

I record plenty of Peyote gourd songs at the gourds they have around my area... They don't really have a problem with it, as far as I know...

[Red_Passion49]

Absolutely not! *nervously glances at her CD collection*:eyes116:

[zeph]

lmao super! :Chatter

[superndngyrl]

did u see that on dances with wolves? Good trade!

[Dawg Stylez]

Interesting questions that you pose in this and your other post. Initially the answer is no way! But the more comlplicated answer is "not directly." There is a way that such songs are passed along, in fact any song, and eachperson that learns it should have permission to sing it, and only use the song in the correct setting. When somone "gives" permission to sing a song, it is usually acceptable to " give"something in return. But not in the sense of "paying" for the song. Even if you have permission to sing something, you do not have ownership of the song. o in that sense, you are not paying for the song. You give a "gift" in return for the permission to sing that song.

All I can say is umf, umf, umf. Are we to assume that these McCulloughs are Lakota? yeah right.

[Mato Winyan]

Originally posted by homalosa
The other thing is this, if sundance songs can be sold to anyone, then anyone should be allowed to attend sundance, and we know that isn't possible.

Sure it is.. check this out...these are the people I have been talking about..



http://www.fs.fed.us/r9/hoosier/recr...e_ceremony.htm