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    CEM
    Tiny Tot Dancer

  • CEM
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    I'm not here to endorse E-bay or Deans Pawn Shop, but there is a pair of beaded side tabs for auction right now. It has beaded tabs and a concho belt with a tipi design that looks painted. The design looks familiar to me like I might have seen it on a picture of a dancer in a magazine or at a dance.

    CEM
    http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI...tem=1182138692

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  • tigger
    Pow Wow Committee

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    there's another type of material that you can use to do beadwork on and it's called duck cloth. it's a light weight canvas type of material and you can get it at any fabric store. this is the material that i use and all you have to do after you are done with the beading is put you backing material on it and your done. it holds up nicely.


    keith

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  • chitimacha1974
    Tiny Tot Dancer

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    The beadwork's done for the sidetabs. I'll be attaching them to wool tradecloth this weekend when I find someone at Church that can so better than I can. I have some other ideas too. They're rather simple in design, but this is my first time. I'll share a picture and my ideas when it's all finished. I hope others will benefit.
    Jim

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  • CEM
    Tiny Tot Dancer

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    I recently came out at a dance with a new outfit that was given to me in February. It was made for a person who had a smaller circumfrance than I do. The outfit had side tabs with a beaded belt that was all attached as one piece. It need fringe added to it and some kind of belt or ties. It also didn't go all the way around my waist.

    Since I didn't think it was likely for me to loose 20+ pounds between February and August, I had a friend use a heavy canvas and extend the belt 4" on both ends. Then I bought a leather belt at Meijer (sort of like a Super Walmart) and sewed it on with doubled up sinew. That is how I attach it to my large waist. I am thinking about adding more beadwork to the belt to cover up some of the canvas.

    I wear the sidetabs "backwards" from the way I think they were intended to be worn. My guess is that it was supposed to be secured in front. Since I couldn't remove the side drops, I flipped it around and secure it in the back. They still hang just a little to far in front, but if I didn't say anything you wouldn't notice it. It was import to me to be able to wear these side tabs with the complete outfit that was given to me since it was all made to match. I'll probably see the Webmaster in a couple of weeks. If we are at the same place I'll ask him to take a picture with his digital camera and post it in the gallery.

    I just wanted to throw this out in case it helps anyone. I'm not sure if I could have done it better. I'd be happy to hear other suggestions.

    Jim-How's that beadwork coming?

    CEM

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  • DCP
    Just Hangin' Round

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    My buddy has a leather/concho belt with beaded drops. He attaches the side tabs to the belt using-----VELCRO. You can buy the stickyback velcro so you don't have to sew through the harness leather. You don't have to worry about the velcro becoming detached because the side drops tuck under the belt.

    I thought this was a novel idea, especially since I have an ever-changing waistline! :D

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  • chitimacha1974
    Tiny Tot Dancer

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    Great CEM,
    I've been doing some beadwork on the loom here and there. It'll line each side next to the fringe. I have a couple other ideas up my sleeve too. I've just been so busy here lately. My wife and I are packing up and moving to Hattiesburg soon. There will be Choctaw to the north and Poarch Creek to the east. I'll be looking for ideas there!
    Thanks for checking up on me,
    Jim

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  • CEM
    Tiny Tot Dancer

  • CEM
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    Jim-How are those side tabs coming?

    CEM

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  • Nashoba Iklanna
    Pow Wow Visitor

  • Nashoba Iklanna
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    [QUOTE] Just curious-how are you going to attach the ribbons at the tips of your sidetabs? Where did you get the idea for this?

    As soon as I figure this out I'll let you know.
    The idea comes from our choctaw men having ribbons tied on their belts and also from Vincent Davis' beaded fancy dance sidetabs.
    I'm thinking of backing the tabs with cloth so it wouldn't be too hard I don't think.

    Wife says thanks for the compliment.
    I had a discription on each but I don't see them now for some reason.

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  • CEM
    Tiny Tot Dancer

  • CEM
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    Choctaw,

    Thanks for adding you .02. Your wife did a beautiful job on your beadwork. Your beadwork set looks greatQ

    Just curious-how are you going to attach the ribbons at the tips of your sidetabs? Where did you get the idea for this?

    CEM

    [ July 16, 2001: Message edited by: CEM ]

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  • Nashoba Iklanna
    Pow Wow Visitor

  • Nashoba Iklanna
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    My side Tabs are about finished. FULLY BEADED. or Actually they were done on a loom.
    3" wide and 22.5" long. They just taper at the end to a point. I'm thinking of "tipping" the ends with ribbon fringe in traditional Choctaw colors.
    Here's a hint:
    Use a design that is unique to your heritage and/or family. Mine are done with traditional Choctaw designs. I have diamonds and crossed stickball sticks.

    I have yet to decide whether I'm going to attach to belt or use a seperate smaller belt underneath. (suggestions welcome)

    My belt is similar. It is a beaded 5.5" wide loom strip on a 6" leather belt. It has all the designs of the tabs and a few more.
    I left about 2.5" of belt where it comes together so it can be trimmed to shorten if I lose weight (fat chance) right now it laces to fasten. This allows for "personal expansion" due to good frybread.

    My wonderful wife did the loom beading.
    I posted pictures in the Gallery area. They are under my name Don Larson in the "general" area. I put them in the wrong place.

    Since our cultures are really close, and related, I would be willing to help with your designs/ideas if you desire.

    [ July 16, 2001: Message edited by: Choctaw ]

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  • CEM
    Tiny Tot Dancer

  • CEM
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    Have any of you out there made side tabs that are done in some kind of ribbon applique or other cloth design? What kind of belt did you use? I have a friend thinking about making ones like that.

    CEM

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  • CEM
    Tiny Tot Dancer

  • CEM
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    Jim & Anyone else who is interested:

    I used brown paper bags to plan out the size and shape of my side tabs.

    I did sew the sidetabs onto the back of the leather concho belt. My conchos are 3" in diameter and I believe the belt is 4" strap leather. I sewed them on with sinew using a leather needle. I only sewed partway through the leather on the top and bottom edges of the belt. It is pretty secure. I'm not worried about them falling off. Since the leather is thick and hard, it was a bit of a challenge to sew it on. I used a thimble and a pair of plyers to make it easier.

    I dyed the leather dark brown with dye from Tandy Leather. I prefered a darker leather so the silver conchos would show up better. I only died the front side. I didn't want the dye to stain or rub off on other parts of my outfit.

    The leather & conchos were purchased from Crazy Crow. The entire piece is secured to my waist using buckles. I bought the buckles from CCTP or Tandy. The straps are like 1/2" strap leather (also from CCTP. I used a leather hole punch to put the holes in those straps. There are two straps that I buckle.

    I'd like to hear how other folks made their side tabs.

    Let me know if you have other questions.

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  • chitimacha1974
    Tiny Tot Dancer

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    And how will the beaded side tabs be attached to the leather belt? It doesn't seem feasible to sew it to the backside. I guess I need some ideas on that too!

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  • chitimacha1974
    Tiny Tot Dancer

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    CEM,
    I'm interested in the heavier material your friend showed you. I'm looking forward to the rest of your description. It's helping alot as I put together things in my head. I've already cut a pattern out on some old t-shirts.
    Thanks again,
    Jim

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  • CEM
    Tiny Tot Dancer

  • CEM
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    MWP-Thank you for the compliment.

    Jim-I beaded the side tabs on two layers of thin canvas. (A friend of mine showed me some heavier material that I am going to use for future projects.) I wouldn't bead on leather for big projects. It would take forever. If you do bead on leather you do not bead all the way through the leather. You go halfway through.

    After I finished doing the beadwork on the canvas, I backed it with a piece of heavy felt in the middle to give it more body and a piece of cotton paisly material. (I'm partial to paisly over floral patterns.) I'm not sure it matters since you don't really see it anyways. Then I cut out the piece of leather for the fringe and sewed it onto the back of the finished beadwork. After I sewed the leather on, I cut the fringe using a metal ruler and a razor blade. Each fringe is a 1/4 inch wide.

    I'll describe more later. Have to pick up my little angel at day care.

    CEM

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