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  • The Boyz: No Shame!!!

    Have u ever done something and been "shamed"? Especially when you go to the pow-wow and walk around...is like peeps are whispering about you? I think many of us have did something one time or another.......no one person is perfect.

    We all learn from our mistakes...or I try to anyway. Past few big pow-wows I have been to I have not only seen but heard something that really disturbed me.

    I saw Hokie Clairmont of THE BOYZ, laughing and joking around about ripping off a casino. I asked around and found out it IS TRUE!! He and Everette Moore were employees of the KICKAPOO CASINO in McCloud, Oklahoma and ripped them off for $10,000. I called their office and spoke with the court as this is a matter of public record. They pled guilty to felony charges!!

    Is one thing to do it but to have NO SHAME and laugh around about it in public....daaaaaaaaaaang!

    We have a lot of other drums groups out there. Obviously these NO SHAME guys think it is funny to rip off their own NDN people and now we have NDN organizations asking them to be host!!!! TOO MUCH!!!! I think they need to be made to realize what they have done....like i said, there was no remorse in their laughiung and joking around......and even said they got away with it!!!

    I for one do not condone this kinda action. A lot of people may say so what..but think about it...EVERETTE MOORE is KICKAPOO he ripped his own people and his buddy helped....SAD...Are they gonna think twice about ripping you off?

    NO SHAME!!!!!

    U can call the kickapoo tribal courthouse and verify this... 1(405) 964-4136...

    RUMORS are always spreading like roaches in the night but this is the truth!
    Powwow Enquirer

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    THE BOYZ..NO SHAME!

    HOKIE WAS IN DA POKIE?


    NO SHAME?.....I'll say.....................
    If I was told I had one hour to live, I'd spend it choking a whiteman~Miles Davis-jazz musician

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    • #3
      You have no shame, hiding behind a stupid name and dropping real names on here like your doing us a favor or something. Mind your own business is what I say.
      I Was Indian Before Being Indian Was Cool!! There's Plenty Of Room For All God's Creatures. Right Next To The Mashed Potatoes!!

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      • #4
        DOING YOU A FAVOR? No, I am doing the rest of the pow-wow world a favor....by informing them of the truth of what went on regarding the Grand Larceny charges filed against these two men....I am putting an end to rumors.

        REAL NAMES? Well, yeah....as it was stated previously, "this is a matter of public record". They have already been charged and entered a plea of guilty.

        When you are not remorseful in anyway and laugh publically about something as serious as this, THEN there is something dreadfully wrong.

        I provided a telephone number where this can be verified. As I stated I for one do not condone this type of activity. People who hold themselves in the eye of the pow-wow public have a certain resposibility so this is my business.... Don't you think? Yes, people will talk...and rumors will spread and I bet half of who read this are saying "RIGHT ON"..now we know what really happened.

        THE TRUTH REMAINS......HOKIE CLAIRMONT AND EVERETTE MOORE RIPPED THAT KICKAPOO TRIBES CASINO FOR $10,000.00 Are you saying this is okay?

        SHAME?..I HAVE SHAME...AND I AM SHAMED FOR THEM....:(
        Powwow Enquirer

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        • #5
          HEY ENQUIRER.......IT IS NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS!!!!! BEING AS CLOSE TO BOTH EVERETT AND HOKIE, I KNOW FOR A FACT THAT THEY ARE NOT LAUGHING ABOUT THIS. U SAY IT LIKE THEY GOT AWAY WITH IT TOTALLY.....LIKE THEY'RE $10,000 RICHER OR SOMETHING. THE FACT IS IS THAT ALL THE MONEY WAS RETURNED. ARE YOU THIS CLOSE TO THEM TO KNOW THIS????..........NO!!! I THINK NOT. YOU'RE JUST ANOTHER GOSSIPER TRYIN TO HATE ON OTHER PEOPLE AND THE FAULTS THEY HAVE MADE. NO ONE IS PERFECT..........I AM SURE THAT YOU HAVE MADE FAULTS IN YOUR LIFE AND I DON'T THINK YOU WOULD APPRECIATE IT IF PEOPLE AIRED YOUR DIRTY LAUNDRY. IF YOU KNOW SO MUCH AND BELIEVE IN WHAT YOU ARE SAYIN THEN THERE SHOULD BE NO HESITATION TO GIVE YOUR NAME.........DON'T HIDE BEHIND A COMPUTER. AND FURTHER MORE DON'T AIR THINGS YOU HAVE NO CLUE ABOUT. AND ANOTHER THING THE DRUMGROUP DIDN'T RIP OFF NO CASINO SO YOU NEED TO QUIT USING "THE BOYZ" AS A WAY OF MAKING YOUR STUPID STORY SOUND INTERESTING..........CAUSE IT'S NOT COOL.........I DON'T CARE WHO U ARE!!!!!!!! (P.S. NATIONAL ENQUIRER IS A WHITE MANS MAGAZINE WHO EXPLOIT PEOPLE WITH LIES TO FURTHER THEIR OWN INTERESTS!!....ANY RESEMBLANCE??)
          Last edited by TBZ4EVER; 07-04-2002, 02:11 PM.

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          • #6
            I'm related to Everett Moore and am ashamed. The family is saddened to know that he has committed such a crime to us his own people/family and tribe. It is very disheartening and to think that him and his fellow offender are still being honored at pow-wows? hm...
            The only time its too late to start dancing is when you're dead.

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            • #7
              you know, pw enquirer, the only reason I stopped into your thread here was the mention of the drum group, as this is the forum... I found your words disheartening, and agree with Lakota that you have used their drum name to further yourself, for whatever reasons. Granted it is, as you say, public opinion, but geez... I wouldn't want this to be me, as your reference to them 2 men.

              If it is indeed true, that is really sad. I've no doubt they are ashamed as hell and wish this didn't happen. I'd like to quote CHER on this one, "If I could turn back time..." :)

              However, I will not waste my money, nor my time on trying to verify the truth, it is not really important to me, nor hardly to anyone else here, to find out the details.

              Girlfriend, don't worry about this... are you directly affected? If not, then, why? I will send good thoughts your way and hope you absorb them... Just look around, there is so much more to focus on and appreciate...
              :p cool indin woman :p

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              • #8
                And what does this have to do with northern singing?
                Don't sweat the petty things and don't pet the sweaty things.

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