Ooops! I didn't realize that I "hid" my message to you & you had to find it, docat. My bad! After posting, I checked through my beading library & found exactly what you were telling me about. I'd like to see a picture of your project. Have a Great day! (I see from your visitor message board that I am not the only one who has sent messages from my own board. Now I feel much better. lol)